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    Quote Originally Posted by likesfish View Post
    Londons Hardley an impregnable fortress I mean ireland is going to be far down the league of Muslim targets of wrath.
    True but the Brits actually try to do something about it...we don't even bother.
    C'est la vie... adiós... good riddance... fu:ck you! :

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    does anyone know how many mosques there are in ireland. we used to take the piss out of the brits about how many immigrants they have but the chicken has come home to roost in ireland now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis jaffacake View Post
    A soft target is a welcoming target.
    Thats my view too. A compact European city in a country which is friendly with the US and the UK a city with a reputation as a party destination for young liberal Europeans it has been my view for 8 years or so

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    Yes- the British are so security conscious that in the middle of one of their periodic colonial adventures with the US they went and applied for and celebrated winning the 2012 Olympics bid.

    I mean- what could possibly go wrong?


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    Half a dozen s/h jet fighters sams drones or any piece of military kit is not really going to help.
    Typhoons and a t45 maybe on standby for the Olympics but the chances of gem doing anything useful is miniscue.
    have you met a loyalist Suggesting they really should become part of a united ireland would be like suggesting a space marine has sweaty man sex with an an Orc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paddyrebel View Post
    I don't believe ireland faces any external threat whatsoever.
    Yes of course, everyone loves us. Incidentally, have you ever considered applying for a post in the Irish civil service, or indeed running for election on behalf of the Labour party? Your naivete and sheer stupidity would suit you well for such roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LamportsEdge View Post
    i can't believe there are people casually flinging around suggestions we should buy drones... they are hugely expensive and require major support operations the technical experience for which doesn't even exist in the Irish Defence Forces. The pictures you see of a lone operator playing Gameboy wth a joystick are very far from the truth about the operational requirements of these multi-million dollar units.
    Dones are hugely expensive - sure, but so is our methadone bill. Don't kid yourself, it's entirely a matter of choice that we decided to keep hundreds of thousands in social welfare slavery rather than spending it on building a defense capability. Money is not the issue here - Switzerland, for example, has a well-financed and resourced military. And would do a reasonable job in protecting its sovereignty against allcomers.

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    Nobody as yet as built a drone capable of air defence work.
    Ireland sits off the coast of Europe surrounded by stable democracy's anyone attempting to attack Ireland would be attacking the Eu and NATO.
    Uk is prepared to go 8000 miles for a war having someone turn up next door is going to get slapped hard regardless of what the Irish government says.
    have you met a loyalist Suggesting they really should become part of a united ireland would be like suggesting a space marine has sweaty man sex with an an Orc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conservative green View Post
    Dones are hugely expensive - sure, but so is our methadone bill. Don't kid yourself, it's entirely a matter of choice that we decided to keep hundreds of thousands in social welfare slavery rather than spending it on building a defense capability. Money is not the issue here - Switzerland, for example, has a well-financed and resourced military. And would do a reasonable job in protecting its sovereignty against allcomers.
    I think keeping people fed and housed at a basic level far exceeds the Rambo materialism of small countries attempting to get involved in unnecessary military procurement contracts. And as for the administration of such procurement contracts I am not at all confident given the levels of corruption in government spending of public money in Ireland that we should be in the business of creating new troughs for the corrupt politician to feed from.

    Military spending on high tech equipment would be the equivalent of property porn for the Tom Clancy readers and would be absolutely no deterrent whatsoever to any likely enemy daft enough to want to make a grab at Ireland.

    Defence of Irish territory has always firmly rested in the past and will in the future rest on the simple knowledge that while land can be taken it cannot necessarily be held in the long term.

    To suggest that the Republic of Ireland get involved in high spending defence equipment on the mad notion that 8,000 members of the Defence Forces could hold an attack on an island with an 800mile coastline and barely two hundred miles across against the airforces and missile facilities held by any one of our European numbers isn't even sane.

    If there is a drawer somewhere with a defence plan in it it should start with the idea of no stupid gestures, holding what trained people there are and being prepared to fade them into the population around the country in order to turn the place into a hell on earth thereafter and denying an invading enemy any real use of the land or its resources- a huge security nightmare.

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    Exactly the population of greater London doesn't have it's own air defence network.
    With no unfriendly neighbours or resources that need defending Ireland can be slack on defence spending.
    Any Tom Clancy fetishes can take a day trip to the uk we still have some of the latest and greatest death tech for them to drool over
    have you met a loyalist Suggesting they really should become part of a united ireland would be like suggesting a space marine has sweaty man sex with an an Orc.
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