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    Quote Originally Posted by MacO'velli View Post
    The contenders would be in this ballpark:
    ABSALON Class (2004- ), Command and Support Ships
    or the MEKO 200 concept as discussed here:

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    MEKO 200 looks good, but they are shelving all the helo options correct? Could be shortsighted if operating internationally in the future one might think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by absconded View Post
    MEKO 200 looks good, but they are shelving all the helo options correct? Could be shortsighted if operating internationally in the future one might think.
    No, a helipad would be included, just no hanger like Ethne has.Sea states in the north atlantic and the Blufwaffe's requirement to be home in time for tea and medals put paid to regular Heli-ops, but a helipad would be a requirement for offloading without regular port facilities, and er..sneaky beaky things!!. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by absconded View Post
    MEKO 200 looks good, but they are shelving all the helo options correct? Could be shortsighted if operating internationally in the future one might think.
    There's a good article at the bottom of this PDF on this whole class.

    http://www.armada.ch/05-5/complete_05-5.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacO'velli View Post
    No, a helipad would be included, just no hanger like Ethne has.Sea states in the north atlantic and the Blufwaffe's requirement to be home in time for tea and medals put paid to regular Heli-ops, but a helipad would be a requirement for offloading without regular port facilities, and er..sneaky beaky things!!. .
    Well with "max pitch 2š, max roll 2š" and other famous lies, canīt say Iīd blame them really... certainly donīt think theyīd last till lunchtime of a Friday even with the assurance of a larger flightdeck than Eithne. Donīt forget toinclude the helifuel pumps (to be circulated daily), HRB and GSI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacO'velli View Post
    There's a good article at the bottom of this PDF on this whole class.

    http://www.armada.ch/05-5/complete_05-5.pdf
    Thanks, nice article.

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    They are at it again.
    The FG Defence spokesman criticised the Government for only having 2 naval vessels to patrol the countries coastline to prevent Drugs smuggling!

    We have 8 ships in the Naval Service, The Revenue Commissioners have 2 Grey painted Patrol boats which they use in anti drugs patrolling, but these are not naval vessels.
    The naval Vessel is the one just beyond the horizon, out of view working 365 days a year in all weather, not the small grey motor launch bedecked with bunting tied up in the local yacht club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dohville View Post
    They are at it again.
    The FG Defence spokesman criticised the Government for only having 2 naval vessels to patrol the countries coastline to prevent Drugs smuggling!

    We have 8 ships in the Naval Service, The Revenue Commissioners have 2 Grey painted Patrol boats which they use in anti drugs patrolling, but these are not naval vessels.
    Send him to the hospital ship immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dohville View Post
    They are at it again.
    The FG Defence spokesman criticised the Government for only having 2 naval vessels to patrol the countries coastline to prevent Drugs smuggling!

    We have 8 ships in the Naval Service, The Revenue Commissioners have 2 Grey painted Patrol boats which they use in anti drugs patrolling, but these are not naval vessels.
    The naval Vessel is the one just beyond the horizon, out of view working 365 days a year in all weather, not the small grey motor launch bedecked with bunting tied up in the local yacht club.
    I'm open to correction, but he may have been alluding to the possibility that we have only two ships on patrol at a time.
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    At any given time we can have all 8 on patrol that is uncommon however due to refits etc.

    We have 6 vessels out at most times, give the Naval Service 8 more and they might be able to do the job that they are tasked with.

    The Irish Naval Service provide a brilliant service within the limits of the sh1te budget dripped down from the DoD overall budget.

    When Fine Gael get in the first then they should do is lift the recruitment ban which is killing the service and then get the new vessels as a priority.

    I sure they have an ex naval service cadet/junior officer staniding as a candidate in cork for Fine Gael somewhere, a david o'brien maybe? He should be asked to help out their defence spokesman before they make a tit of themselves again.
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    'At any given time we can have all 8 on patrol that is uncommon however due to refits etc.

    We have 6 vessels out at most times ...'

    If the above is true it means that for two summers in a row, '08 and '09, half the country's naval fleet was made available to protect Shell's contracted, Allseas owned pipelay vessel, the Solitaire while she was in Irish waters to lay the offshore section of the proposed Corrib pipeline.

    Some country!

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