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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahj View Post
    Yes, nobody is scum. It is not your place to rank people based on their activities. You are not better than someone else simply because they sell drugs and you don't. Don't kid yourself, you are no moral beacon, no matter who you are or what you do. Everybody does things which others can consider good and bad and NOBODY has the right to rank people like you are.
    Paedophiles? Rapists? Are they scum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthisfree View Post
    Legalise it definitely, couldn't be bothered about using it myself, rather a bottle of wine now, but have smoked it years ago and kinda always had the idea that in the "sunset" years of my life I think I just might again. Amazing but I always thought that by now it would have been legalised. How long it takes for sense to prevail.

    I see that my son smokes it, rather see him doing that than drinking but having looked at it I have wondered about what they might be putting into it nowadays, needs regulation and it should be sold in a chemist shop, I do not want to have to hobble up to a dodgy backstreet dealer in my 70's trying to score with my pension book
    Or... you should be allowed grow it at home, or get together with a few friends and keep one or two plants on the go - keeping a regular supply!

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    Quote Originally Posted by orbit View Post
    It's more conspiracy doggerel, which basically suggests that legislators and policy makers are under the thumb of big-cotton ?? LOL

    If illegal drugs were legalised, then alcohol corporations would buy into the business, just like any other.

    So, sorry your point is no good.

    And to answer your other question. Yes, I think drug dealers are committing a more serious offence than people who buy it.
    Oh man. Back in the 30s and 40s, yes, the cotton farmers WERE pushing for prohibition. Read the bloody book. There are documents in there to prove it.

    Why do so many people laugh at the idea of a conspiracy? People conspire all the time to fill their own pockets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mothball View Post
    Paedophiles? Rapists?
    Paedophiles are also people, as are rapists. They are people who have done things to hurt other people, as have you and I. They are no better or worse than you or I.

    You are very very arrogant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mothball View Post
    The difference being that their trade is legal.
    Circular argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by mothball View Post
    I doubt the majority of publicans are shady figures doing deals down back alleys.
    Still a circular argument, amounting to 'they're legit because they're legal'. No problem, once cannabis sales are legal, the salesmen are auto-legit, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by mothball View Post
    I can't remember many pubs hiring hitmen to take out rivals. Again, I have no dealings with people who deal in illegal narcotics.
    Make something illegal and you attract the criminal element. All the things you describe and much worse occurred in America during alcohol prohibition.

    Quote Originally Posted by mothball View Post
    I’ve known several people who have smuggled other things and I know not to get in their way. Are they the same type of people? Do tell.
    I've no idea. Unlike you, I don't know any smugglers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mothball View Post

    I said it should legalised an hour ago so reputable people could deal the stuff and society could reap the benefits.
    Our argument actually surrounded the fact that you believed reputable people already dealt it. I saw it differently.
    I don't care about anyone's reputation.

    My argument(s) are unrelated to yours. I never mentioned anyone's reputation or otherwise, that was you.

    MY point is that drug dealers are also people, just like you and I. They are just people whose work is illegal.

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    Just think how much money would be saved in foreign exchange if the law were changed to allow people to grow their own, as in some other countries like Belgium.

    Growing cannabis is rather easy, but takes more effort if it is to be done well. On the plus side, there is a vast volume of information about it available on the Internet as well as in print form.

    I know from experience that the only thing really addictive about cannabis is growing it.

    A further benefit is that anyone who really takes an interest in it - and getting good weed certainly is a strong motive - inevitably learns techniques that are useful in growing other things as well - everything from potatoes through herbs to flowers.

    Rather than moan about today's young people who seem incapable of making a cup of tea, let us encourage them to get into the finer points of soil acidity/alkalinity, photoperiod, moisture levels and so on. Then many of them will be good for at least something.

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    Marijuana has MEDICAL benefits. And not just suppression of naesea.
    It has been found that marijuana can fight lung caner, as well as prostrate, skin and brain cancer.
    Marijuana Beneficial in Fighting Lung Tumors, Study ( New research has shown the benefits of ...)
    and
    http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine...ancer-20045-1/

    compare THAT to alcohol.

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    Decriminalize it, standardize it, tax it, and regulate the sale of it. Criminal gangs lose money and the motivation to involve themselves in crime and the sum total of human happiness goes up.

    What, exactly, is the downside? I'm failing to see it.

    (This is another case of certain members in society trying to impose their moral outlook on everybody else. I've never understood the need of certain people to impose their moral views on others. If you think drug use is immoral then don't use them, but allow everyone else the liberty to make up their own minds.)
    "We are such stuff
    As dreams are made on; and our little life
    Is rounded with a sleep." - The Tempest, Act 4, Scene 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahj View Post
    Oh man. Back in the 30s and 40s, yes, the cotton farmers WERE pushing for prohibition. Read the bloody book. There are documents in there to prove it.
    What relevance does that have today, even assuming it is true?

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