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    Quote Originally Posted by truthisfree View Post
    Legalise it definitely, couldn't be bothered about using it myself, rather a bottle of wine now, but have smoked it years ago and kinda always had the idea that in the "sunset" years of my life I think I just might again. Amazing but I always thought that by now it would have been legalised. How long it takes for sense to prevail.

    I see that my son smokes it, rather see him doing that than drinking but having looked at it I have wondered about what they might be putting into it nowadays, needs regulation and it should be sold in a chemist shop, I do not want to have to hobble up to a dodgy backstreet dealer in my 70's trying to score with my pension book

    Please ensure you son is not smoking "hash" if he is you'll need to kick him in the hole for his own good. Please look it up its evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draftman View Post
    Cannabis like any drug has side effects.

    Many lives and families have been badly effected by Cannabis abuse.



    You could say the same about alcohol
    It is indeed hard for the strong to be just to the weak, but acting justly always has its rewards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahj View Post
    Someone asked why it was prohibited in the first place. I explained why. Gave a reference. Have you checked it out?!?!

    Give it up orbit. YOU are the one who is being irrelevant, continually pushing this point. ESPECIALLY given you are wrong, you are disputing my reference and knowledge without even examining it.
    So, the point doesn't have any relevance today in the debate about whether weed should be (re)legalised. Fair enough.

    I wasn't questioning your assertion at all actually.

    But on the comparison with alcohol, I take the pragmatic view that yes alcohol is ingrained in Western culture and prohibition was a failure because of this. It's one thing we should give credit to the Islamic world for, that they have resisted it successfully. But just because alcohol is dangerous, doesn't somehow justify legalising illegal drugs.

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    It should be legalised. It's prohibition is simply a licence for law breakers to make money and criminalizes a huge portion of society for engagnig in something that doesa lot less harm to the individual than alcohol and zero harm to a third party.

    There have been issues with forms of psychosis in young males especially although this is pretyy minor when you consider the benefits and the compare to the impacty of alcohol.

    Legalise it please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeupcall View Post
    One of the guys under 25 years of age who was taking part in the import of these goods is an accountant in a reputable estate agents in Dublin. This just shows the calibur of some of the people willing to risk themselves and affiliate themselves with the wrong people to get this product into the country. I feel for this accountant.
    Are you for real? The man was delivering drugs for a criminal gang that are believed to have been responsible for at least three murders in the Clondalkin area over the past two years. They are currently involved in a drug war and the profits of this bust would have funded it.

    To portray him as some sort of mythical figure delivering drugs, so decent stoneheads like yourself, can have a bit of a smoke, is utterly ridiculous.

    There are two possibilities here;

    1- He owed the gang money and this drugs run was to pay it off.

    2- He was in it for the money. If he was making regular drug runs, he would also have been collecting and delivering Class As.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner View Post
    Circular argument.
    It's only a circular argument if you misinterpret the point I was trying to make.


    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner View Post
    Still a circular argument, amounting to 'they're legit because they're legal'. No problem, once cannabis sales are legal, the salesmen are auto-legit, right?
    What have I already stated? I said to legalise it because it attracts a certain type of person at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner View Post
    Make something illegal and you attract the criminal element. All the things you describe and much worse occurred in America during alcohol prohibition.
    Exactly; that is the best example that could have been made. The people involved in alcohol deals during prohibition were different to the honest people who were involved prior to prohibition. Personally, I see a major difference between honest Joe the bar man and Al capone.
    For example, if a current form of medication was suddenly made illegal because people were getting a buzz from it, do you think ordinary pharmacists would continue to stock it or would the shadier elements of society step in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thranduil View Post
    'Moron' is what Cannabis can make you it would seem...

    Some people dont need any substances to be morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeupcall View Post
    Today on the news I hear 500,000 worth of herbal cannabis caught.

    Also 2 million worth of resin was found in a van.

    One of the guys under 25 years of age who was taking part in the import of these goods is an accountant in a reputable estate agents in Dublin. This just shows the calibur of some of the people willing to risk themselves and affiliate themselves with the wrong people to get this product into the country. I feel for this accountant.
    The days of cannabis illegality are numbered. It is my mission to plough down any toolbag who thinks it should still be illlegal. I will plough through and cut you in half.

    Screw this country and screw the ideals of the 'old gard'. It is time we developed as a nation and moved on from this pro-hibition.

    Think of the amount of money involved here. Just remember this money has gone into the hands of some criminal gang already in some other country. This several million has already been paid to the bad guys and now our own Irish citizens who are productive members of society are going to jail. Think about it for a second. This capture is nothing. NOTHING comapred to what is coming into this country every week. All this money is going offshore and into criminals hands to bring this stuff in.

    We need to legalise weed and we need to do it NOW.

    It will be my life mission to get it legalised for the health of our young people and to keep money in the country. HUNDREDS of millions are leaving this country for cannabis imports alone and HUNDREDS of millions of tax payer money is being spent trying to stop it.

    MILLIONS of taxpayers money is then used to put these productive members of society into jail. I create jobs, I smoke weed, yet I am a phucking criminal also. WAKE UP ---- Leave the backwater ideals behind and lets move on.

    Weed is good, the war on drugs is FUTILE and very EXPENSIVE and allowing a product for the gangs / criminals to sell and fund their operations.

    GODDAMMIT people cop to phuck on and legalise WEED.


    I have never heard such muck in all my life... Give me proof of what you are saying re: Weed is good. You'll need to come up with a better arguement than that.

    And as for your statment re: productive members of society... haha... And I do believe you could have a peacefull smoke in London and not be deemed a criminal... Why dont you move there or maybe holland instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justcallmetex View Post
    Please ensure you son is not smoking "hash" if he is you'll need to kick him in the hole for his own good. Please look it up its evil.
    I am concerned and have explained my concerns to him about the quality of the hash that is available, would be way better smoking good South African or Columbian weed that also should have some sort of quality control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    Yes, some people believe that if the law allows for or fails to prohibit something than it is the equivalent to society giving approval to that activity. Total nonsense, of course, but people who believe such feel the need to keep society morally pure even at the cost of condemning thousands or otherwise law-abiding citizens to criminality and to enriching criminal gangs.
    They're also the people that constantly strive to fit in.

    Their religion, Uniformity + Conformity.

    Their inevitable sacrifice, creativity + innovation.

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