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Thread: Does the Burka have any place in Irish society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    What is the Christian equivalent of burying a woman up to her neck and stoning her to death ?

    Or telling a 14 year old australian girl it was her fault she was raped by a muslim gang because she wasn't wearing muslim dress ?
    Why are you asking me? Try Google, its your friend.....

    However, if you want to play that game, perhaps you might tell the Muslim/Jewish/Hindu equivalent of locking up pregnant teen mothers, selling their babies and working them like slaves their entire natural lives?

    Or perhaps punishing poor children with rape and torture and then sticking the public at large, many of whom who werent even born when a large proportion of this was going on?

    I could go on, but I wont bother, all religions have dark sides, all human endeavour is marred with despicable acts, but religions seem to have it in for women especially, possibly because the original spirituality of humanity centred around the magic of a woman producing another human and men, being unable to replicate this miraculous act, set up the Gods as being, in the main, masculine and in many faiths, women were relegated to passive roles like mother or even slated as being whores and adulterers and home wreckers.

    ALL Religions are based on primitive mindsets and worldviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The OD View Post
    All Religions are somewhat mysognistic to a greater or lesser extent, so we can either ban 'em all, or allow everything and anything as long as its not contrary to the secular law of the land.
    The Church of England which has female ministers is hardly in the same ballpark as Catholicism...never mind Islam.

    And I would see the Burka as a public safety issue. I would not allow any garment that hides the face in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoShandor View Post
    The Church of England which has female ministers is hardly in the same ballpark as Catholicism...never mind Islam.

    And I would see the Burka as a public safety issue. I would not allow any garment that hides the face in public.
    You are correct of course, Ivo, some Religions have made great strides in their modernisation, you will hear plenty of criticism of course, power was never given up lightly, especially when wielded for so long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EamonnZ View Post
    The one comment I make is thus:

    If a Western Woman goes to a muslim country to live or even visit, she is expected to follow rules and traditions, therefore, does this courtesy not extend to those who visit our shores or those who want to reside here...

    I was always under the belief that the law of the land prevails?

    But then I pause and think, oh, its my native Ireland, screw our priciples, lets be ultra PC to accomodate those so we don't offend anyone...

    If we are going to end up like the UK in an instance whereby a muslim cashier refused to handle a bottle of wine being purchased and ask to be relieved until a replacement cashier came along, then its time for the law of the land to prevail.

    Read into what I say as you wish.
    Absolutely agree with that. And you can take it as a given that every dog and divil will be going out shoplifting with one of these on, safe in the knowledge they're unidentifiable and unlikely to have it whipped off them in public for a quick security check. Bit of a policing nightmare in addition to being unnecessary and slightly degrading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asset test View Post
    They are on a bike with a helmet. It is the law. And they must remove the helmet when visiting any shop, office etc. So it is not a permanent feature of their outdoor garb. Safety is the reason, not hiding.
    http://www.politics.ie/1967705-post24.html

    Exactly even more so, The case about safety with this recent armed robbery

    Dressed from head to toe in a traditional Muslim woman's burkha, this is the moment a robber raided a travel agent.
    Brandishing a knife, he threatens the two women staff before making off with an undisclosed amount of cash.
    The robbery in Luton came six weeks after a similar incident in nearby Dunstable and, this week, a £150,000 raid on a jeweller's in Banbury, Oxfordshire





    Jewellers robbery in Oxfordshire by burka-clad man: £150,000 designer watches stolen | Mail Online
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    They will need to start making them there burkas in smaller sizes.


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    Does the Burca have any place in Irish society?

    If you mean Deirdre then no, if you mean the garment then im not so sure..

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