McCabe killers to be released

[Just Us]

No they didn't. Their sentences were too lenient and their release too early.

They served 10+ years more than the instigators of the worst massacres of unarmed civilians in the history of the state, who, not only got FG to implement their terrorist objectives, but got the cowardly FG/LP [and successive FF-led] Govs to make the Irish tax-payer to pay for it! Spare us the hypocritical hubris, you Tory Twat.

[HEAVENHELPUS]

Oh sorry it was manslaughter. That's so much better.

Opening fire on a man during a raid to rob a post office van....yeah manslaughter. Thanks for the clarification.

It was only manslaughter. Guys turned up with high power weapons to rob money, use them, and serve ten years.

Yeah I can now see who you think it is so trivial.

The Provos make me and 99% of people sick.

99% of FGers? So do you condemn your party for covering up the biggest act of mass murder ever committed in this Country? (Dublin/Monaghan bombings?)Are you calling for your party members who covered up mass murder to be jailed? HYPORICRITE!

[Just Us]

Presuming the reason then was that this was deemed to be a criminal and not particularly terrorist offence. The High Court have more judicial wisdom than I do! lol

It does indeed; the court ruled that the men were indeed eligible under the GFA but the Gov was not obliged to implement the GFA [altho' it didn't stop them demanding that others implement it]. Quelle suprise!

[Limerick Lad]

The thing I cant understand is other IRA men were released early under the GFA for killing Gardai and their was hardly a thing said in the media yet there has being a big fuss over Jerry Mcabe.Was he a better Garda is that the reason or is it just that his death was used by the establishment in Ireland to have a go at Sinn Fein to stop people voting for them while pretending to act in the interests of the family.

The killing of Garda Jerry McCabe occurred during the attempted robbery of a Post Office van in Adare, a purely criminal act for the self enrichment of those involved.
In the immediate aftermath of McCabe's Killing Gerry Adams said the crime had nothing to do with the IRA, it subsequently emerged that those involved were or had been IRA activists.
Sinn Féin campaigned for their inclusion amongst those prisoners to be released under the GFA despite statements from the IRA that the their actions were unauthorised.

[bobbysands81]

As unpalatable as it is the release of the killers of gerry mccabe is the price that must be paid for the completion of the Good Friay Agreement.

Sorry, you're utterly wrong.

They served their entire sentence in prison and have not been released under the terms of the GFA.

[Just Us]

She represented a party that refused to acknowledge that his killing was a crime. How do you suggest they act?

OK, so every meeting involving the Yes-men [FF/FG/LP] re Lisbon re-run should be hijacked by the relatives of the victims of the Forgotten Massacres? Em, must talk to them.

[Libero]

I believe Mrs McCabe has decided to say no more about it and move on,It seems to me that both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail supporters are using it for their own political agenda.
that was ok for a time it needed to be well publicised but at this stage their concern sounds as empty as a tin can.

There's a fair bit of truth in that.

But then all politics involves puffing out one's chest and stirring up emotions. God knows, Irish republicanism does.

That's not just whataboutery. Earlier on the thread, DaveM pointed out how Sinn Féin's attitude has been fairly provocative, frequently glossing over the facts of the killing, ignoring the clear-as-daylight evidence of later witness intimidation, and questioning the motives of those who complain.

Sinn Féiners might not care that their attitude winds up the majority of Irish people, but they shouldn't act all surprised.

For me, one of the aspects of the murder (and that's what it was) that usually escapes comment is how it shows up the IRA's claim to be an effective, disciplined and honourable army and resistance movement. Because what sort of army robs a post office of pension monies in a state with which it is not at war? And then intimidates witnesses to a court case in that state? What sort of army, having admitted that the robbery and use of weapons was not properly authorised and broke standing orders, then offers support and protection to the wrongdoers rather than bringing them to court-martial?
FFS, even the Boy Scouts have more discipline and respect for the community they live in than to treat internal rule-breakers and robbers as if they should be protected and kept inside the fold, nevermind a member who kills a police officer.

Come to think of it, the IRA and the Boy Scouts could have learnt quite bit from each other. The Provos could have shown the Scouts how to abduct and kill suspected informants. And then some random 12-year old scout could have shown them how to mark on a map where the body is dumped.

[ballot stuffer]

They served 10+ years more than the instigators of the worst massacres of unarmed civilians in the history of the state, who, not only got FG to implement their terrorist objectives, but got the cowardly FG/LP [and successive FF-led] Govs to make the Irish tax-payer to pay for it! Spare us the hypocritical hubris, you Tory Twat.

Thankfully this opinion is in the fringes where it belongs.

[Quinn1505]

Time served.
Welcome home lads.

Bigger story here: Martin Ferris giving the fingers to SF leadership by meeting the boys at the gate.

[fergalr]

Come to think of it, the IRA and the Boy Scouts could have learnt quite bit from each other. The Provos could have shown the Scouts how to abduct and kill suspected informants. And then some random 12-year old scout could have shown them how to mark on a map where the body is dumped.

Reminds me of the joke in Good Morning, Vietnam.

"-What's the difference between the Army and the boy scouts?
-The boy scouts don't have heavy artillery"

What the IRA would learn from the scouts, speaking as a former scout leader, is respect for one's community and the views and opinions of others; the concepts of honour and dignity; and the importance of duty and of fidelity to the country.