Watching Ahmadinejad.

[Christine Murray]

Guardian is covering the Iranian situation from two perspectives , the naming and recovery of the disappeared (in the
wake of the election) and Ahmadinejad's relationship to the Ayatollah : Both very interesting, the former moreso than
the speculative latter: Ahmadinejad and Khamenei: what's in a (shoulder) kiss? | News | guardian.co.uk

Some Guardian articles on the Disappeared:

Iran protests: 'They have covered up the deaths' | World news | guardian.co.uk
Mir Hossein Mousavi urges Iran to release all election protesters | World news | guardian.co.uk

Not a lot of the MSM are looking into naming those that disappeared in the wake of the contentious election,
nor those imprisoned or wounded at the mo.

There are two vids on the main Page (top link) contrasting the ceremony's coverage.

Related link: Ahmadinejad: There's no rift with supreme leader - CNN.com

I am reiterating the OP here alongisde the issue of Iranian showtrials and the links to Iranian human rights abuses (executions)
and asking why some people appear blinkered by the issue of what a regime will choose to maximise in terms of propaganda
and to what end?

Showtrial link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6788433.ece

[robert151410]

I am reiterating the OP here alongisde the issue of Iranian showtrials and the links to Iranian human rights abuses (executions)
and asking why some people appear blinkered by the issue of what a regime will choose to maximise in terms of propaganda
and to what end?

Most people are indifferent to events in a relatively obscure middle eastern country. What a delicious luxury to have, to be able to concern yourself with these events.

[cactusflower]

I'm responding to the OP and subsequent posts on the issue of the trials BBC and British Government hypocrisy, to the apparent (self-declared) guilt of the person you refer to, and to the fact that the British, complicit in rendition and torture of prisoners, are in no position to point to finger at anyone else.

The British have held their own showtrials of Islamic people for writing blogs, making speeches etc.

[Christine Murray]

I'm responding to the OP and subsequent posts on the issue of the trials BBC and British Government hypocrisy, to the apparent (self-declared) guilt of the person you refer to, and to the fact that the British, complicit in rendition and torture of prisoners, are in no position to point to finger at anyone else.

The British have held their own showtrials of Islamic people for writing blogs, making speeches etc.

I detest Miliband for starts but I may add that you are making assumptions based in a very crystal cleancut expression
of guilt emanating from a showtrial attended by fear and in how manipulative a regime can regain its power after
that election.

How do you regain power after losing an election?

How many theocracies and dictatorships have used the cowing of the opposition to achieve that?

Final question btw Cactusflower are you saying that Britain uses public trials and death penalty to underscore its democracy
and thousands disaapear from say the Tory party if New Labour is (like) not happy ? This trial is a Propaganda.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...l-in-iran.html

[cactusflower]

There are two things you are taking as read, that I am not taking as read.

One is that Mousavi won the election. He had been inactive in politics for the last 20 years and most younger people had not heard of him. He was a last minute stand in candidate. Many sensible observers thought that Ahamdinejad won.

The other thing is that you seem to assume that the British Embassy in Iran is not packed with spies and was not engaged in trying to get Mousavi elected. I know the embassy scene and who works out of them and we know Britain's history in supporting the Shah. I don't share your assumption.

It was a public trial and he is an embassy employee, albeit Iranian citizen. He could have pleaded not guilty. As it is he has given details of his activities. Any reason to believe they were invented?

If Britain feels under threat it uses show trials and far worse to defend its position. How many innocent Irish people were subject to same, and now Islamic people jailed for blogs and sermons?

Britain as a colonial power has been responsible for imprisonment, torture and death of very many hundreds of thousands of people (millions?). They are still at it in Afghanistan and Iraq.

[Christine Murray]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...rture-election

[Christine Murray]

Today's Irish Times carries an opinion piece re Admahdinejad, the piece is not open to reader comment as is usual with the
UK broadsheets :

Ahmadinejad's hardline stance - The Irish Times - Mon, Aug 10, 2009

BBC is reporting on allegations of rape during incarceration, last evening torture was admitted:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8192660.stm

Related link: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/me...ion/index.html

[Christine Murray]

lndex on Censorship has been following the ongoing post-electoral fall out in lran and provides (along with Guardian UK) an interesting Twitter on issues of rising censorship and repression here : http://www.indexoncensorship.org/200...ured-to-death/

[Christine Murray]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8202235.stm . l expect my favorite troll apologist for the Clothilde Reiss/ Hossein Rassam show trials along to call me a neocon and denigrate the million signature campaign sooner or later...,

[Christine Murray]

New cabinet named by lranian Prez : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8212574.stm