New Road to speed up our economic decline

[anewbeginning]

When will these muppets realise that building new roads to the North will not bring trade down South.

The population of the North is a fraction of the South, as is the economy.

When you build a new road to the North, it only means more people from the south heading north and not the other way around.

Ministers to reveal route of road project - National - News

Indeed the Troubles meant less people went North for their shopping and so it was beneficial to the Irish Economy.

[fiannafailure]

A new road to Mary Coughlan territory mmmmmuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[TheLastPaddy]

When will these muppets realise that building new roads to the North will not bring trade down South.

The population of the North is a fraction of the South, as is the economy.

When you build a new road to the North, it only means more people from the south heading north and not the other way around.

Ministers to reveal route of road project - National - News

Indeed the Troubles meant less people went North for their shopping and so it was beneficial to the Irish Economy.

Yeah right, why don't we seal the border completely and try to ignore the North completely? What island do you live on or indeed what world ?

[TrueBlue forever]

When will these muppets realise that building new roads to the North will not bring trade down South.

The population of the North is a fraction of the South, as is the economy.

When you build a new road to the North, it only means more people from the south heading north and not the other way around.

Ministers to reveal route of road project - National - News

Indeed the Troubles meant less people went North for their shopping and so it was beneficial to the Irish Economy.

Maybe they are hoping that people will emigrate to the north...as unlike the 80's things are that bad that people cannot afford the boat

[anewbeginning]

There is no use having integration with the North without having a common currency. Because without a common currency, border retail outlets on both sides go through boom and bust.

This year northern retail outlets see a boom from customers from the south, while retail outlets just south of the border go out of business and have job lay offs.

Next year it will be the reverse.

But in the main, unless we cut the minimum wage for example to the Northern Ireland level and no-one wants that, we will continue to see haemouraging of customers from the south to the north, helped by integration and new roads.

[dmc444]

Why should we not have good road links with the north?

A good road link will make it easier for trade and commerce to move between the two parts of Ireland. Saying no roads to the north is just a short sighted view.

Also this people going North to shop i think just highlights what is wrong with the Irish economy, it is far too expensive and a cheaper North will actually help bring prices in the Republic down faster.

I would point out that this cycle swings in round abouts for decades it was people in the North shopping in the south and it will change again.

[TheLastPaddy]

There is no use having integration with the North without having a common currency. Because without a common currency, border retail outlets on both sides go through boom and bust.

This year northern retail outlets see a boom from customers from the south, while retail outlets just south of the border go out of business and have job lay offs.

Next year it will be the reverse.

But in the main, unless we cut the minimum wage for example to the Northern Ireland level and no-one wants that, we will continue to see haemouraging of customers from the south to the north, helped by integration and new roads.

Well, that is the price for living on the same island. We cannot ignore physical reality and we are all in favour of a united Ireland aren't we? I take the point about short term discrepancies and I accept that measures need to be taken to deal with those, but long term an all-Ireland economy is logical. To suggest that we do not build roads is in my opinion silly and smacks of too cosy a view of our economy in the South.

[fergalr]

Yeah right, why don't we seal the border completely and try to ignore the North completely?

Go on...

[anewbeginning]

I am beginning to believe now it's our 'open' economy which is a reason we are in economic decline.

The reason why we joined the Euro, supposedly, was to avoid the wide fluctuations in currencies with trading partners. Yet one of our major trading partners is Britain, and we trade a lot with Northern Ireland, and there is no doubt we are suffering because of the currency fluctuations.

And it doesn't look like improving for many many years to come.

Secondly with our open economy many new jobs go to immigrants, while many Irish people are condemned to the dole. This also is not good for economy, as it raises the risk of mortgage defaults of Irish unemployed as one example, in turn creating a possible sub prime bubble.

A completely open economy is more prone than other economies of massive booms and busts, depending on International factors.

And that's what we have had in Ireland the last 15 years, a massive boom, where the cost of everything went up, what we spend on the public sector went up massively including wages, followed by a massive bust, and now we are left with wages, and costs we cannot afford.

So our open economy is one reason why we are running huge budget deficits.

[Grumpy Jack]

It's not a a road to the North, it's a road to the northwest of this State. People in Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan pay taxes too, you know.

The shortest route to Donegal happens to pass through Northern Ireland - that is not our fault but we got to live and work with it. If we want a high quality route to Donegal and between Donegal and the rest of this State then we build it - even if it passes through another jurisdiction. It will benefit us all in the future.

I really wish people would engage their brains and think before keyboard bashing on this site. It's people like this who end up in the Dail as Fianna Fail TDs - and look where that has got us.