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    Economist Constantin Gurdgiev calls for unconstitutional law

    Report pushes case for later nightclub opening | BreakingNews.ie

    Business & Finance editor and Lecturer at Trinity College has called for a law that discriminates between Dublin and the rest of the Republic of Ireland by having different opening times in the licensing laws.

    If memory serves me correctly such a law was deemed to be unconstitutional in the past when the "holy hour" in both Dublin and Cork cities had to be abolished as it meant different laws for different "equal" citizens.

    Surely a vested interest organisiation should have their homework done before they ask a prominent celebrity economist to put his name to their Report?

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    Eh, not to think you've a vested interest or irrational response, why would such a law be unconstitutional?
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    different bars etc alreday have differentopening times do they not? The bar in heusten station opens very early compared to the public houses around it.
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    That's the choice of the bar though.

    To say that a bar in Dublin should be allowed to stay open later than a bar in Cork, Galway or Limerick is a different issue.
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    but it can open earlier and surely opening times as much as closing times are covered by licensig laws. I mean if not then a place could close at closing time and re-open ten minutes later if it wanted
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    Quote Originally Posted by todaytonight View Post
    If memory serves me correctly such a law was deemed to be unconstitutional in the past when the "holy hour" in both Dublin and Cork cities had to be abolished as it meant different laws for different "equal" citizens.
    The Bin charges in Dublin and Cork are different. Is that unconstitutional?

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    There are early house licences throughout the state, normally associated with places that had irregular working hours - railways, markets, ports. It's a licensing difference based on practical considerations, not something as arbitrary as in Dublin or not.
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    yes but it establishes the principal that licensese are not by constitution universally the same, ammending the current laws to allow different licensing hours based not on work conditions but on geography cant be unconstitutional in that circumstance
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    If a nightclub is not in a residential area it should be allowed to stay open 24/7.
    As long again as residents aren't being affected any more than they are under the current system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by todaytonight View Post
    Report pushes case for later nightclub opening | BreakingNews.ie

    Business & Finance editor and Lecturer at Trinity College has called for a law that discriminates between Dublin and the rest of the Republic of Ireland by having different opening times in the licensing laws.

    If memory serves me correctly such a law was deemed to be unconstitutional in the past when the "holy hour" in both Dublin and Cork cities had to be abolished as it meant different laws for different "equal" citizens.

    Surely a vested interest organisiation should have their homework done before they ask a prominent celebrity economist to put his name to their Report?
    For what purpose would the different closing hours serve? Is it in the public interest and is the change a proportionate response to the issue the Government wish to address.

    When you can come back and tell me what answers the members of the Supreme Court give to the above questions, you can happily say it would be Unconstitutional.

    In any event, I don't remember having a Constitutional Right to drink in a public house wherever in the country I might wish and at whatever time.

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