An Bord Snip Nua wants 20,000 public sector job cuts.

[True Republican]

And do you suggest there are 20,000 people in the state sector who have no work to do anyway?

There are more than 20,000 people in the public sector whio have little or nothing to do all day.

[red leveller]

Pinochet committed terrible human rights abuses but he did implement sound free market economic policies.

Ah yes indeed. Sound economic policies for a happier nation.

" Pinochet's economics "

"In 1973, the year General Pinochet brutally seized the government, Chile's unemployment rate was 4.3%. In 1983, after ten years of free-market modernization, unemployment reached 22%. Real wages declined by 40% under military rule.

In 1970, 20% of Chile's population lived in poverty. By 1990, the year "President" Pinochet left office, the number of destitute had doubled to 40%. Quite a miracle."

[red leveller]

There are more than 20,000 people in the public sector whio have little or nothing to do all day.

Wild allegations, utterly unsubstantiated.

And of course in conflict with the OECD report

[DCon]

Ah yes indeed. Sound economic policies for a happier nation.

" Pinochet's economics "

"In 1973, the year General Pinochet brutally seized the government, Chile's unemployment rate was 4.3%. In 1983, after ten years of free-market modernization, unemployment reached 22%. Real wages declined by 40% under military rule.

In 1970, 20% of Chile's population lived in poverty. By 1990, the year "President" Pinochet left office, the number of destitute had doubled to 40%. Quite a miracle."

On 7th May, 2008 Brian Cowen was granted the leadership of the Republic of Ireland. By July, 2009, Unemployment in the Republic was 11.9%

[Panopticon]

A second is the issue of process. People say that the state doesn't want to launch voluntary redundancy schemes. Doesn't want to pay. So how can it proceed? Machine-gunning the unwanted into a pit somewhere?

Are you seriously comparing those who advocate reducing unsustainable government spending to death squads?

[red leveller]

Are you seriously comparing those who advocate reducing unsustainable government spending to death squads?

No I am not.

[True Republican]

Are you seriously comparing those who advocate reducing unsustainable government spending to death squads?

I agree, typical husterical rubbish form someone like red leveller on the far left who is an apologist for the public sector.

[red leveller]

I agree, typical husterical rubbish form someone like red leveller on the far left who is an apologist for the public sector.

Now now children. This is an old, and none too honourable, approach to debate.

I ask either of you to find where I said those who advocate cutting public service numbers were the equivalent of death squads. Not, I might add, anything other than that. You will not be able to.

Perhaps you can then attempt to engage on the issue at hand.

[red leveller]

I agree with you on changing the constitution and ripping up the public sector, perhaps trade unions should be suspended from going on strike for the next five years till they see sense and the government should introduce internment for all trade union leaders who act irresponsibly.

And this from the one who suggests I am hysterical

[cactusflower]

I was just thinking about this the other day. What if a party appeared that promised to immediately hold a referendum to suspend the Constitution for say 8 years in order to clean up the mess by any means necessary.

We're already an international pariah and laughing stock, and our existing political system is clearly completely incapable of making any decisions or taking any decisive action.

It might not be the worst option. Suspend, rip down the FF croneyist State, rebuild, offer a new Constitution and radically reformed political system and public sector back to the People after 6-8 years. Republic 2.0.

Could it really be any worse than another decade of that shower of clowns in the Dáil?

Polish up the jackboots, is it?

Internment of opposition ?