Most 'Asylum Seekers' lying through their teeth!

[Catalpa]

According to todays IT


The secretary general of the Department of Justice has said that the vast majority of asylum seekers coming to Ireland were economic migrants seeking to better themselves and their families and that in doing so were invariably prepared to "lie through their teeth".


The full report is in today's printed edition on page 6.

Sean Aylward said the have cost the State (that's us Folks!) around 1.1 BILLION over the last three years.

He said that between 1992 and 2006 some 69,652 had applied for asylum and that 8,274 had ben granted it.

Another 10,000 or so had been granted leave to remain.


2,600 had been actually deported out of 12,300 deportation orders issued.

More than 7,100 were considered to have evaded deportation altough the majority are believed to have left the State.

He also said that one of the many ironies of the current system was that many people who claimed to have fled their home country were continually seeking re-entry visas to allow them to return there!

He also said the 1999 decision to allow some asylum seekers to work had been 'catastrophic'.

He also said Ireland had been caught 'flat footed' when asylum seekers began arriving here in large numbers in the late 1990's.


Well I'm glad this man has had the moral courage to speak out against this Farce.

Let's hope he will be the first of many in a position to know who will tell it as it is.

Congratulations Mr Aylward! 8)

[Jippo]

Sean Aylward said the have cost the State (that's us Folks!) around 1.1 BILLION over the last three years.

Haven't we got some money off the EU in the past? And is not taking refugees a part of our responsabilities in the EU?

Catalpa, you are obsessed!!

(I mean this in the nicest possible way - I understand for you that this is a legitimate concern, and you argue from a basis and are clearly not spouting rubbish, nit that I agree with you mind.)

[JCSkinner]

Catalpa is raising the issue of economic migrants, not genuine refugees, on this occasion.
And under EU law, asylum seekers are obliged to seek refuge in the first safe country they reach. Given that there are no direct links to the countries of origin of most claimants, it is clear that they are not adhering to this EU policy and we would be entitled to eject them on those grounds.

[Jippo]

Catalpa is raising the issue of economic migrants, not genuine refugees, on this occasion.
And under EU law, asylum seekers are obliged to seek refuge in the first safe country they reach. Given that there are no direct links to the countries of origin of most claimants, it is clear that they are not adhering to this EU policy and we would be entitled to eject them on those grounds.

Doesn't change my argument: we're in the EU. Taking Economic Migrants is part of the deal.

[jmcc]

Catalpa is raising the issue of economic migrants, not genuine refugees, on this occasion.
And under EU law, asylum seekers are obliged to seek refuge in the first safe country they reach. Given that there are no direct links to the countries of origin of most claimants, it is clear that they are not adhering to this EU policy and we would be entitled to eject them on those grounds.

Doesn't change my argument: we're in the EU. Taking Economic Migrants is part of the deal.

Economic migrants as in citizens from other EU states? The key word being "citizens"?

I suppose it is only a matter of time before we hear the wails of outrage from those in RAR.

Regards...jmcc

[Jippo]

Catalpa is raising the issue of economic migrants, not genuine refugees, on this occasion.
And under EU law, asylum seekers are obliged to seek refuge in the first safe country they reach. Given that there are no direct links to the countries of origin of most claimants, it is clear that they are not adhering to this EU policy and we would be entitled to eject them on those grounds.

Doesn't change my argument: we're in the EU. Taking Economic Migrants is part of the deal.

Economic migrants as in citizens from other EU states? The key word being "citizens"?

I suppose it is only a matter of time before we hear the wails of outrage from those in RAR.

Regards...jmcc

Yes that is whom I am alluding to: EU citizens.

[JCSkinner]

But the Secretary-General and Catalpa were not referring to EU citizens. They were referring to asylum claimants who are in reality economic migrants.
Can you remain on topic?

[Catalpa]

Catalpa is raising the issue of economic migrants, not genuine refugees, on this occasion.
And under EU law, asylum seekers are obliged to seek refuge in the first safe country they reach. Given that there are no direct links to the countries of origin of most claimants, it is clear that they are not adhering to this EU policy and we would be entitled to eject them on those grounds.

Doesn't change my argument: we're in the EU. Taking Economic Migrants is part of the deal.

No it isn't - Ireland, Britain and Sweden were the only countries to allow open access from the start. None of the others did.

There was no deal. We voted twice on the last Nice Treaty which we were told was necessary to smooth the entry of the NAS yet in neither of those two Referendums did the Government inform us that so many would be coming here.

Now either they didn't know the scale of immigration that was awaiting us, in which case they were/are a bunch of economic incompetents, or they did know in which case they a re a bunch of dishonest cynics.

In fact Wilie o'Dea issued a statement at the time in which he claimed it was 'racist' to query what might happen!

Anyway this going off track already.

Let's not here any more arguments over what is going on with these so called 'Asylum Seekers'.

It is now a matter of record - from the paper of record!

[ailish]

"2,600 had been actually deported out of 12,300 deportation orders issued"


Thats disgraceful. Why aren't our ministers and the Gardai doing their jobs properly?? I'm going to do everything I can to give my vote to a Government in the next general election who actually does their job. Not a government who wants a relaxed 'let them stay' style policy. This is vital to ensure that welfare migration to Ireland must cease.

[stringjack]

And under EU law, asylum seekers are obliged to seek refuge in the first safe country they reach.

Could you cite the law, please?