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    Re: Most 'Asylum Seekers' lying through their teeth!

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    Nothing in the EU treaties about this. You're confusing it with freedom of movement which only extends to existing EU states.
    The EU has signed up to certain international agreements on refugees but I'll admit I do not know waht they are off the top of my head
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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    The number of asylum-seekers in 1992 was around 39. They are now in the thousands. Why do people think that is? Cmon...
    Perhaps because this is now a more attractive place in which to live?

    Or maybe air travel has come down in price over the past fifteen years?


    What's your point?
    Nothing will motivate the lazy / apathetic / Americanised / west-British types to embrace their culture and the Irish language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa
    No it isn't - Ireland, Britain and Sweden were the only countries to allow open access from the start. None of the others did.

    There was no deal. We voted twice on the last Nice Treaty .....

    Let's not here any more arguments over what is going on with these so called 'Asylum Seekers'.
    You are confusing Asylum Seeker with migrants from the new EU contries. Two totally different (no a legal sense) types of immgrants.

    By the way, why do you use the expression 'so called'?? Are you suggesting that they are not Asylum Seekers?
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    Re: Most 'Asylum Seekers' lying through their teeth!

    Quote Originally Posted by forest
    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    Nothing in the EU treaties about this. You're confusing it with freedom of movement which only extends to existing EU states.
    The EU has signed up to certain international agreements on refugees but I'll admit I do not know waht they are off the top of my head

    The EU may have signed these agreements but within this framework, there also has to be a need for each EU member country itself to devise laws that logically correspond to the big numbers of asylum seekers flocking to those countries. These would be mainly the english speaking countries like Ireland and britain along with other ones like France. The Irish people see fit the need to have a stringent (but I'll admit it is laxed) policy on the problem of thousands of asylum seekers coming to the country every year, many of whom are welfare migrants. I'll admit I wasn't even aware that the numbers being deported were substantially lower compared to the number of asylum seeker applicants. Perhaps, our so called 'working' politicians could raise this issue in the Dail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor
    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    The number of asylum-seekers in 1992 was around 39. They are now in the thousands. Why do people think that is? Cmon...
    Perhaps because this is now a more attractive place in which to live?

    Or maybe air travel has come down in price over the past fifteen years?


    What's your point?
    That it would seem to confirm the validity of what Mr.Aylward said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    The number of asylum-seekers in 1992 was around 39. They are now in the thousands. Why do people think that is? Cmon...
    Most of them were economic migrants posing as asylum seekers. Ireland's asylum system has been an easy target up until the referendum that closed the loophole that was being exploited? The fact that someone went on the record about the problem will probably upset the RAR types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc
    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    The number of asylum-seekers in 1992 was around 39. They are now in the thousands. Why do people think that is? Cmon...
    Most of them were economic migrants posing as asylum seekers. Ireland's asylum system has been an easy target up until the referendum that closed the loophole that was being exploited?

    Regards...jmcc
    Posing as an asylum seeker when actually being an economic migrant seems to be a big problem here alright. The Government does need to prevent this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc
    Most of them were economic migrants posing as asylum seekers. Ireland's asylum system has been an easy target up until the referendum that closed the loophole that was being exploited?
    HWGA....

    What loophole, jmcc?
    Nothing will motivate the lazy / apathetic / Americanised / west-British types to embrace their culture and the Irish language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    Quote Originally Posted by Conor
    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    The number of asylum-seekers in 1992 was around 39. They are now in the thousands. Why do people think that is? Cmon...
    Perhaps because this is now a more attractive place in which to live?

    Or maybe air travel has come down in price over the past fifteen years?


    What's your point?
    That it would seem to confirm the validity of what Mr.Aylward said?
    Go on...
    Nothing will motivate the lazy / apathetic / Americanised / west-British types to embrace their culture and the Irish language.

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    Funny how when it comes to foreign illegals in Ireland, the government is and senior civil servants make such a fuss while at the same time they plead for special treatment for Irish illegals in the US.
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