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    The Sunday Tribune today publishes the names of 11 people given anonymous identities in the report of the Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse. All of those identified are criticised either for administering physical or sexual abuse, or for failing to prevent it happening to the children in their care.

    The list of names includes two former managers of schools who were appointed Provincials of their religious orders, and a nun, Sister XXX, who famously defended her record on Prime Time after revelations of abuse emerged in the 1996 Dear Daughter documentary about Goldenbridge. She is given the pseudonym 'Sr Alida' and is accused of beating children and for letting her enthusiasm for the making of rosary beads at Goldenbridge become an "obsession".

    Former Rosminian Provincial Fr XXX, who managed the now infamous Ferryhouse school in Clonmel from 1975 to 1991, is given the pseudonym 'Fr Stefano'.

    It notes that he failed to report the activities of a 'Br Bruno' – who is in fact the notorious sexual predator XXXX – to the gardaí until the mid-1990s. This was despite the fact that his "activities as a perpetrator of sexual abuse in Ferryhouse came to light in the late 1970s, following which he was dismissed from the order," it states.

    The late Fr XXXXe, former Provincial of the Oblates of Mary Immaculate in Ireland, is 'Fr Luca' in the report. He ran St Conleth's reformatory school in Daingean, Co Offaly, from the mid-1960s until the early 1970s.

    "Fr Luca's procedure would have tended to suppress rather than encourage allegations of sexual abuse in Daingean," the report states.

    Sr XXXXX, who is now in her 80s, was resident manager of St Joseph's in Kilkenny until 1986.
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    Is there anyone left to hate? Surely, we can source just another hate figure.

    I am suffering from scandal fatigue myself. I just don't care any more. Oh, i know I should have empathy with all those who are currently jostling for the position of most victimised, most abused, most put upon, but I just cannot be bothered.

    I am sure the mantle of moral outrage can be borne by someone more worthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert151410 View Post
    I am sure the mantle of moral outrage can be borne by someone more worthy.
    True true like people who walked out of mass in protest in cloyne last week

    Cloyne mass-goers walk out after sermon

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmrebel View Post
    True true like people who walked out of mass in protest in cloyne last week

    Cloyne mass-goers walk out after sermon
    What a wonderful gesture. Better still because it costs nothing at all.

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    More names

    John O Donoghue was the Minister for 'Justice' the most senior legal figure in the Cabinet when the deal was done with the Devils in Skirts, but remember the money aspect of this is only a smoke screen what about the deals that were done with the Devils in Skirts by O Donoghue and his legal eagels down at the Goldmines (sorry Four Courts).......the cheek of Sean Brady and the rest of the Brady bunch to try and distance themselves from their subordinates......Father Brendan Smyth was not a member of any of these 18 Orders...Father Daniel Doherty (still in Wheatfield prison)......the Brady bunch are the Chief Executives of the Catholic Church and have the courage of their convictions and resign....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmrebel View Post
    TThe Sunday Tribune today publishes the names of 11 people given anonymous identities in the report of the Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse. All of those identified are criticised either for administering physical or sexual abuse, or for failing to prevent it happening to the children in their care.

    The list of names includes two former managers of schools who were appointed Provincials of their religious orders, and a nun, Sister XXX, who famously defended her record on Prime Time after revelations of abuse emerged in the 1996 Dear Daughter documentary about Goldenbridge. She is given the pseudonym 'Sr Alida' and is accused of beating children and for letting her enthusiasm for the making of rosary beads at Goldenbridge become an "obsession".

    Former Rosminian Provincial Fr XXX, who managed the now infamous Ferryhouse school in Clonmel from 1975 to 1991, is given the pseudonym 'Fr Stefano'.

    It notes that he failed to report the activities of a 'Br Bruno' – who is in fact the notorious sexual predator XXXX – to the gardaí until the mid-1990s. This was despite the fact that his "activities as a perpetrator of sexual abuse in Ferryhouse came to light in the late 1970s, following which he was dismissed from the order," it states.

    The late Fr XXXXe, former Provincial of the Oblates of Mary Immaculate in Ireland, is 'Fr Luca' in the report. He ran St Conleth's reformatory school in Daingean, Co Offaly, from the mid-1960s until the early 1970s.

    "Fr Luca's procedure would have tended to suppress rather than encourage allegations of sexual abuse in Daingean," the report states.

    Sr XXXXX, who is now in her 80s, was resident manager of St Joseph's in Kilkenny until 1986.
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    Obviously anyone who damaged children in that way deserves to be shot but just on matters legal this post is in danger of repeating a libel. I am only pointing it out for the sake of Dave's/the sites protection. Additionally, methinks the legislation setting up Ryan included penalties for revealing the names of those disguised in the report.

    Perhaps the better thing is merely to refer to the article, without quoting any names, and letting people read it themselves.

    Sorry, I don't mean to be pedantic.
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    By all means discuss the article but naming those as the Tribune did is an potentially an offense and we don't have the deep pockets that the Tribune has. Also, it is posting copyrighted material which is also a no no
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    Are newspapers who reveal the names of those against whom allegations of abuse are made but whose identities are shielded in the Ryan Report breaking the law, I know those complainants who appeared before the Redress Board are prohibited under law from revealing how much they were awarded and I think from naming those against whom they made allegations.

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    In regards to the article will this put more pressure on the gardai to prosecute these people???

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