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    Will the next FF tent be full of Beef Barons instead of Developers?

    Cowen splashes €70m on farmers - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

    It's great to see new investment in any sector but the cynic in me wonders if they talk about the knowledge economy and the Green economy being the future, why is the government's big election announcement about beef?

    Is it that the developers are nolonger a decent source of FF funding so let's tap the beef baron's again?????

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    Be reasonable. Larry Goodman only got 500k from the last CAP payments for watching his grass grow. Sure you couldn't live on that.
    We all love animals. Why do we call some 'pets' and others 'dinner'?

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    So now any investment the government makes has an ulterior motive?
    The beef tribunal is in the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by destinysoldier View Post
    So now any investment the government makes has an ulterior motive?
    The beef tribunal is in the past
    Unfortunately for FF, the public is completely disillusioned with them. The forthcoming elections will see them decimated at the polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by destinysoldier View Post
    So now any investment the government makes has an ulterior motive?
    The beef tribunal is in the past
    Not "any" investment. I just see a very cynical diversion (sudden) of taxpayers money into an industry that has a history of links to FF.

    I can find thousands of examples of the government (FF & GP) talking up our prospects with the "knowledge" and "green" economies and yet their big election announcement is about BEEF!

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    It is over for FF. They will be lucky to return a single MEP. Of course, people have only themselves to blame for the antics of the last fifteen years. We elected them and we knew they were completely corrupt.

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    Could be death watch beetles.

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    Some of the evidence of the mammoth beef scams was hastily destroyed.The United Meat Packers factory in Ballaghadereen,county Roscommon,was for example, fortuitously burned to the ground in a mysterious fire,in 1992,only days before a posse of E.E.C. investigators were about to carry out an investigation into alleged irregularities in the plant.

    The Department of Agriculture had previously fined U.M.P. almost two million Euros over these irregularities,none of which was disclosed to the Insurance companies who were asked to pick up the tab.

    On discovering these facts,it comes as no surprise that they refused to pay, given the suspicious circumstances surrounding the conflagration.

    Legal proceedings have been in progress for ten years.

    In 2002 the case was settled and the Irish taxpayer lost 34 million Euros,as a result of the Department of Agriculture capitulation.

    The Irish taxpayer compensated Brussels for all of the destroyed beef. 34 million Euros.The Irish taxpayer also paid an extra 22 million Euros in interest charged on the original cost of the fire. A further 13 million Euros is still in dispute between the Dept of Agriculture and the E.U. as the value of the beef was revalued following the fire.? On and on it goes.

    The Fianna Fail Farmers Merrygoround.Dung,dollops of dosh and Disneyland all combined.

    The debacle earned fortunes for many of the best connected(friends of Fianna Fail) lawyers in the Irish Legal Profession.As does the current Mahon Tribunal.

    More recently ,we have happily been spared a Sheep Tribunal.

    During the last foot and mouth disease outbreak,an estimated 50 farmers in the Cooley Mountains had been claiming E.U. subsidies(premium payments) for thousands of sheep which did not exist.When department officials arrived to slaughter the animals-they were nowhere to be found.!It is not known if any of the fraudently obtained money was ever recovered,but what is certain is that not one of the culprits was ever prosecuted.Compare this ,with the heavy hand of the law which comes down on a bowsey or Dublin Gurrier caught claiming social welfare-or the like- fraudently
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    Very interesting !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by destinysoldier View Post
    So now any investment the government makes has an ulterior motive?
    The beef tribunal is in the past



    Why do you think so many people consider that if F.F. are involved there is some devious underhand aspect to it. Fianna Fail made their own bed. They glorified people who were essentially crooks. They are hugely proud of small town 'cute hoorism'. They make a virtue out of it and most are now sick of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by todaytonight View Post
    Not "any" investment. I just see a very cynical diversion (sudden) of taxpayers money into an industry that has a history of links to FF.

    I can find thousands of examples of the government (FF & GP) talking up our prospects with the "knowledge" and "green" economies and yet their big election announcement is about BEEF!
    This was not an election announcement. Is the governemnt supposed to stop announcing stuff just because there is an election coming up

    More blueshirt spin!

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