Fintan O' Toole exhorts Labour to stop acting like Nurse Nancy to Fine Gael and FF.

[blacbloc]

Well said Fintan O' Toole. He doesn't put quite like I did in the title of this thread but it's the same thing. Labour have to give over the maiden aunty adminstering smelling salts role to whichever of Tweedledum and Tweedledee they feel most needs it when it comes to power sharing. For Chrissakes, grow some vitals, will ya guys and gals! We want a proper Labour Party not this crap. Give us a REAL alternative, please!

Labour can kill off Coke and Pepsi politics - The Irish Times - Tue, May 12, 2009

[Simbo67]

There was a thread on this yesterday.

[mccafferty cat]

Did you notice that he again repeated the false claim that Fine Gael were dead and buried until the "Mullingar Accord" was agreed?

FG had, in fact, become the largest party in Europe, and within 9 seats of becoming the largest party of Local Government, 9 months BEFORE there was ever a hint of an FG/Labour pact.

But little facts like that would rarely bother a bitter smoked salmon socialist like O'Toole from whining

[blacbloc]

It is a truth universally acknowledged that pimply, angry and earnest young men are often desperately in want of a right wing political party...FG must be it I suppose

BTW are FG suicidal enough to embrace McDowell and Harney? I mean, haven't they SEEN what those two did for the PDs...

Still it would be good news for Labour.

[MarD]

Finatn O'Toole's piece was out of touch with reality.
If Labour went it alone they'd become another SF. The electorate don't want a Left government, they have seen how bad it gets when Zanu-FF cosy up to the unions in the name of Partnership.
Also the electorate don't want such a socially liberal party at the helm.
Imagine if Labour were the Government, we'd become Albania.

[irish_bob]

It is a truth universally acknowledged that pimply, angry and earnest young men are often desperately in want of a right wing political party...FG must be it I suppose

BTW are FG suicidal enough to embrace McDowell and Harney? I mean, haven't they SEEN what those two did for the PDs...

Still it would be good news for Labour.

your finger is about three miles off the pulse , believe me , thier is a sleeping giant of voters out there who are crying out for a true party of the right in this country , you wouldnt think it from listening to or reading our overhwhelmingly left wing media of course , the majority of people in this country would run a mile from the kind of politics fintan o toole espouses , just because the irish people dont want cronyism or incompetance doesnt mean they want equal reward for the enterprising and the idle


p.s , in this country all the angry youth are firmly on the left

[uriah]

Well said Fintan O' Toole. He doesn't put quite like I did in the title of this thread but it's the same thing. Labour have to give over the maiden aunty adminstering smelling salts role to whichever of Tweedledum and Tweedledee they feel most needs it when it comes to power sharing. For Chrissakes, grow some vitals, will ya guys and gals! We want a proper Labour Party not this crap. Give us a REAL alternative, please!

Labour can kill off Coke and Pepsi politics - The Irish Times - Tue, May 12, 2009

Why don't we just appoint Fintan to run the country since he knows what's best for everyone. Cut out all the middle-men/women.

It is very easy to sit in the comfort of one's home and write criticism of anybody and everybody, dishing out advice and wisdom (?) to all and sundry. Nowadays one doesn't even have to deliver one's work (!!)to the office - click of the mousepad and away it goes. Armchair (might even be in bed)commentators carrying out their written assassinations.

We may be cynical about politicians - indeed we may despise some of them for what they have done/not done. But it takes courage to put one's name on the ballot paper and ask people to vote for you - especially in the current climate.

Some commentators get too much airtime and too much credit. Some of them are far more arrogant than the politicians they love to criticize.
Fintan is one of them.

[irish_bob]

Why don't we just appoint Fintan to run the country since he knows what's best for everyone. Cut out all the middle-men/women.

It is very easy to sit in the comfort of one's home and write criticism of anybody and everybody, dishing out advice and wisdom (?) to all and sundry. Nowadays one doesn't even have to deliver one's work (!!)to the office - click of the mousepad and away it goes. Armchair (might even be in bed)commentators carrying out their written assassinations.

We may be cynical about politicians - indeed we may despise some of them for what they have done/not done. But it takes courage to put one's name on the ballot paper and ask people to vote for you - especially in the current climate.

Some commentators get too much airtime and too much credit. Some of them are far more arrogant than the politicians they love to criticize.
Fintan is one of them.

excellent apraisal of fintan ( finger wagging ) o toole

[blacbloc]

your finger is about three miles off the pulse , believe me , thier is a sleeping giant of voters out there who are crying out for a true party of the right in this country , you wouldnt think it from listening to or reading our overhwhelmingly left wing media of course , the majority of people in this country would run a mile from the kind of politics fintan o toole espouses , just because the irish people dont want cronyism or incompetance doesnt mean they want equal reward for the enterprising and the idle


p.s , in this country all the angry youth are firmly on the left

If you think media in this country is left wing you must be some sort of fascist yourself! FOT is as close as it gets and he's really only a pastel shade of pink.


Labour and Sinn Fein combined have a sizeable vote - they should be able to sezie a lot of disaffected FF voters if they do this right way. It's not more of the same people want - or an even more extreme form of folly which is what you are advocating. We want a return to rationality.

[Cato]

Why don't we just appoint Fintan to run the country since he knows what's best for everyone. Cut out all the middle-men/women.

It is very easy to sit in the comfort of one's home and write criticism of anybody and everybody, dishing out advice and wisdom (?) to all and sundry. Nowadays one doesn't even have to deliver one's work (!!)to the office - click of the mousepad and away it goes. Armchair (might even be in bed)commentators carrying out their written assassinations.

We may be cynical about politicians - indeed we may despise some of them for what they have done/not done. But it takes courage to put one's name on the ballot paper and ask people to vote for you - especially in the current climate.

Some commentators get too much airtime and too much credit. Some of them are far more arrogant than the politicians they love to criticize.
Fintan is one of them.

I commend to you Theodore Roosevelt's "Muck Raker" speech.