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    Quote Originally Posted by Unionist
    They should postpone it.
    No, they should cancel it.
    Quot capita, tot sententia

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    Sinn Féin have decided to postpone a Hunger Strike which was due to be held near the town as a mark of respect to the family and in an effort to ease tensions.
    Revolution not devolution.

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    im sure you mean a hungerstrike march . Cant see New Sinn Fein undergoing any form of hardship .

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    Thats right. They were always better at inflicting the real hardship on others. :wink: __________________________________________________ ___________
    Generally unionists do not celebrate murderers and terrorists, let alone elect them. That is a big difference between unionism and republicanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merle haggard
    im sure you mean a hungerstrike march . Cant see New Sinn Fein undergoing any form of hardship .
    1. Oh yes, commemoration

    2. There is no such thing as new Sinn Féin and I don't think most members would agree with you there.
    Revolution not devolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gob************************e

    There is no such thing as new Sinn Féin .

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    When was new Sinn Féin founded.

    Look I disagree with a lot of the initiatives taken in the past but the thing is look at the alternatives, we have people like RSF who still cling to a document that isn't implementable, have certain overly Cathlic and right wing tndencies, and claim that anyone not in that party is not a Republican. And then you have other groups who are disorganised, don't have a mandate and seem to be riddled with informers.
    Revolution not devolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unionist
    Innocent till proven guilty in HM Court of Law.

    But whoever did it deserves to rot in hell and suffer!
    I'm what most in the six would call a moderate republican/nationalist. Most of my family (the northern branch) are SDLP voters. I spent my college years (90-94) in UCD arguing with SF members that a ceasefire was necessary and indeed vital to advance our mutual aims (assuming everyone wants an Ireland at peace, and peaceful progress towards unification). But.

    After all we've heard about the new improved non-sectarian RUC/PSNI, I had my first opportunity to observe them first-hand last September. A friend of mine, a professional photographer, was attacked and robbed of his camera (worth over £1000) by a gang of mindless spides in Derry City Centre. There were four of us together at at the time, and 3 of us needed hospital treatment after the attack and theft.

    So, the next day, after we'd all been released from hospital and had a bit of a sleep, we all met up to report the incident and the theft to the supposedly new and improved PSNI. It might be worth pointing out that all of us had mentioned this in the hospital the night before, but the PSNI were nowhere to be seen.

    Anyway. We basically got treated to a bunch of sectarian gob************************ery. The PSNI pretended they couldn't understand our names, insisting we repeat the spelling numerous times (and this for fairly common names like Liam, Sean and Ciarán), likewise with our addresses for those of us that had suspiciously "fenian" sounding addresses, and then huffing and sighing all the way though our witness statements. It was clear they didn't give a bollocks, and just wanted the annoying Caflicks out of there. They did absolutely nothing about the crime, and phoned us all up 2 weeks later to say they were taking "no further action" - as if they'd taken any action to begin with.

    The PSNI are just the RUC with a shiny new name and uniform.

    On top of this, the British government have done nothing to attack sectarianism in the north, and the unionist politicians continue to make excuses for Loyalist violence while screaming to the heavens about "the IRA"

    If this makes someone who has always been pro-peace extremely cynical about the intentions and attitudes of the British Government and political Unionism, what effect is it having on people who still have to live under British rule? I got out as soon as I was 18, but others don't have that luxury and I will not leave my friends and family behind, stuck in a theocratic sectarian cesspit.

    Time for the south to wake up and realise the true nature of the northern state, and that the British are not some poor "piggy in the middle" but that they deliberately encourage sectarianism and refuse to take any steps to challenge and eliminate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gob************************e
    When was new Sinn Féin founded.

    Look I disagree with a lot of the initiatives taken in the past but the thing is look at the alternatives, we have people like RSF who still cling to a document that isn't implementable, have certain overly Cathlic and right wing tndencies, and claim that anyone not in that party is not a Republican. And then you have other groups who are disorganised, don't have a mandate and seem to be riddled with informers.
    i would date the full emergence of the new sinn fein philosophy at the time your criticisms of republican groups became central to its tendencys political spin . Until after the hungerstrikes sinn fein had no electoral mandate at all and eschewed electoralism and reformist politics . Which means that prior to 1983 ( and even at that period its electoral mandate was much much less than today) you would reject the organisation outright presumably . And also due to the fact Eire Nua was its policy too if your going to be consistent ( It was rejected by those who went on to found the new sinn fein tendency on the grounds it was a sop to unionism . Now it appears to be "unimplementable" . It is therefore an unimplementable sop to unionism I take it ?) From your criticisms it appears you would have been thoroughly ideologically opposed to provisional sinn fein for basically the majority of the troubles .

    Riddled with informers..aah that old chestnut . Quite likely a criticism of other republicans put around by people such as denis , alfredo and the rest of the top 20 . Where supporters of new sinn fein to even attempt to return to conflict in the morning that criticism of others would be laughable to the point of infinity.

    Revisionism on a scale Harris and Dudley Edwards would choke on seems to be new sinn feins forté

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    When ever has a mainstream Unionist Party made excuses for Loyalist terrorism?

    The DUP and the UUP are both severly opposed to Loyalist terrorism in ALL forms!

    Stop with the trolling
    Strength in the Unity of our British Isles!
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