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    "my mother is unhappy" Spectre of emigration

    brit article on Irish now emigrating

    On Dublin's Custom House Quay, six starving figures stagger towards an invisible ship. Or perhaps, given that the statues recalling the famine were erected using money raised by, among others, Ireland's new rich, they are heading towards Shrewsbury Road. No street shows just how far from poverty the country has come, or better embodies the extraordinary distances some will go in search of affirmation. The houses may be lovely - for the most part redbrick, substantial and sitting in generous lawns - but they are far from palatial. Yet in 2005, a home here sold for €58m...

    "When your young are leaving, there's a sense of national inferiority, of failure,"...

    People genuinely had no idea this level of mismanagement was going on."..<article continues>
    Ireland: As the Celtic Tiger roars its last, Ruaridh Nicoll reports on fear of an Exodus from Ireland | World news | The Observer
    "I don't think Martin McGuinness necessarily intended to kill anyone while in the IRA." factual

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    good post. good story in that article.

    yes its very very true. The south is prity doomed. I get the feeling alot of people think its not happening.
    I was out in my home town at the weekend at there was a good crowd out spending/wasting money.

    i would confidently say that in 2 years time, the dole will be gone, there will be a 30% unemployment, and there will actually be people starving in this country. and a good civil war on top of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriel27 View Post
    good post. good story in that article.

    yes its very very true. The south is prity doomed. I get the feeling alot of people think its not happening.
    I was out in my home town at the weekend at there was a good crowd out spending/wasting money.

    i would confidently say that in 2 years time, the dole will be gone, there will be a 30% unemployment, and there will actually be people starving in this country. and a good civil war on top of that.
    Bring on the civil war
    "I don't think Martin McGuinness necessarily intended to kill anyone while in the IRA." factual

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    Emigration is good!
    My only regret is returning to Ireland!

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    If my circumstances permitted it, I'd be long gone already. Others who are more flexible are already pursuing such options.
    The exodus of our young talent base has begun. In the meantime, we're still borrowing massive sums at horrific interest to pay for the dole for tens of thousands of Eastern Europeans and to fund aid (that doesn't work) in the Third World.
    I expect another minibudget by the Autumn, and then yet another hairshirt number in the 2010 budget at the end of the year.
    By then, many thousands more will have been laid off, and our welfare budget will be slashed because it is unsustainable.
    At that point, it's a toss-up whether the IMF come in, we have a run on the banks, civil unrest or there comes a day when the public sector don't get their wages.
    It's going to be very ugly, and I wish I could be somewhere else when it happens. But I'm stuck here.
    Go, if you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner View Post
    Go, if you can.
    Or alternatively, go into the garden, dig a foxhole, put on the tin foil hat and.... weep?

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    And what will the Brit unemployed be doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Well View Post
    Or alternatively, go into the garden, dig a foxhole, put on the tin foil hat and.... weep?
    You don't think it'll pan out as I described? Then you're the one in the tinfoil hat. We're losing tens of millions a day currently. We're about to go off a cliff economically, and there is no soft landing.
    I stand by my advice - anyone who has the ability to see a short to medium term future somewhere else owes it to themselves to actively pursue such options. Because this country is screwed for at least a decade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner View Post
    You don't think it'll pan out as I described? Then you're the one in the tinfoil hat. We're losing tens of millions a day currently. We're about to go off a cliff economically, and there is no soft landing.
    I stand by my advice - anyone who has the ability to see a short to medium term future someone else owes it to themselves to actively pursue such options. Because this country is screwed for at least a decade.
    Ah now JC you're jumping to conclusions as to what I "intimated" - I didn't intimate anything .... btw re the nasty future in store I don't at all disagree there ... that is very much on the Dinner Menu as of now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Well View Post
    Ah now JC you're jumping to conclusions as to what I "intimated" - I didn't intimate anything .... btw re the nasty future in store I don't at all disagree there ... that is very much on the Dinner Menu as of now
    Apologies. I thought you were implying that things would be rosy and anyone considering emigrating must be nuts.
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