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    Asylum seekers to Ireland double the EU average

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    Ireland remains a popular country for people seeking asylum, especially Nigerians, according to EU figures just released.When compared to the population, Ireland attracted the eighth highest percentage of people from outside the EU seeking asylum.

    [COLOR=Red]This was double the EU average[/COLOR]..

    • A total of 3,865 people applied for asylum, with the single largest group – 26% or 1,010 people – coming from Nigeria...
    • next single largest groups were 6% (235) from Pakistan..
    • 5% (205) from Iraq

    Last year the authorities dealt with 4,790 applications for asylum and granted it to 1,465 people.. about one-third.

    This was slightly more than the EU average, although Ireland gave very few refugee status, instead giving them permission to remain in the state for humanitarian reasons.
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    Another unfortunate legacy of British rule. Being an English-speaking country encourages bogus asylum-seekers from Anglophone countries to come here. But so too does a bleeding-heart media, political and judicial Establishment and the fact that 75% of deportation-orders are not enforced because they get tipped off under the present system of their deportations-dates (something the IRP bill will end) and because of the generosity of the Irish social-welfare system e.g. child-benefit which asylum-seekers are entitled to. We don't even have detention-centres, unlike many of our EU neighbours in Western Europe. Without detention-centres, you can evade deportation by going on the run. The number of transit-countries involved means that this is actually economic-migration under the asylum flag of convenience. Consequently, it undermines our sovereign right to determine who from outside of the EU may and may not migrate to Ireland. This is unacceptable, not least with unemployment headed for 500,000 this year. Charity begins at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostexpectation View Post
    following the nuns back
    You mean there were lots of Irish nuns in Pakistan?

    First I heard of it.

    Details, please.

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    well i was referring to nigeria
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    there is only one solution.....let's take it

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    More flamebait on the topic of immigration and asylum seeking
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    Well then, seal the land border fully with the United Kingdom and sign up to Schengen and let us work with our fellow Europeans (without the Brits who are not prepared to cooperate in anyway) in keeping the bogus asylum seekers out.

    This could operate sise by side with the extreme measures being planned to 'discourage' residents of the republic -re introduction of customs and excise- from going across the land border into the U.K. on shopping trips. It would take at least three years for Bruxelles to find controls such as a resurrected 24h / 48h rule 'illegal'.

    The re imposition of the travel tax has not caused a ripple so far in Bruxelles although the first steps of complaint have been taken.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Another unfortunate legacy of British rule. Being an English-speaking country encourages bogus asylum-seekers from Anglophone countries to come here. But so too does a bleeding-heart media, political and judicial Establishment and the fact that 75% of deportation-orders are not enforced because they get tipped off under the present system of their deportations-dates (something the IRP bill will end) and because of the generosity of the Irish social-welfare system e.g. child-benefit which asylum-seekers are entitled to. We don't even have detention-centres, unlike many of our EU neighbours in Western Europe. Without detention-centres, you can evade deportation by going on the run. The number of transit-countries involved means that this is actually economic-migration under the asylum flag of convenience. Consequently, it undermines our sovereign right to determine who from outside of the EU may and may not migrate to Ireland. This is unacceptable, not least with unemployment headed for 500,000 this year. Charity begins at home.


    I used to process their payments. They would be issued with a deporatation notice telling them (asking them) when & where to turn up, and their old Garda immigration bureau ID would be withdrawn. They would be simultaneously given another letter which asked those dealing with their welfare payments to 'please facilitate fully and to please not impede' the encashment of the welfare payments. They could move address if they wanted to avoid deportation at this time, and, by carrying on a correspondence with the Dept., effectively secure 'leave to remain' through the duration of their time here.
    Deportation, in other words, was optional for the applicant.
    They're all still here bar the few hundred that FF highlight for the attention of the media. Add up all the asylum applications that Ireland has received over the past 14 years, take away five or six hundred or whatever, and you get the picture.
    Several blocks of the new flats appear to have been built to house them, so I doubt very much if the govt. had any desire to remove them in the first place - Build Flats, Section 23, Entice New Landlords, Provide Asylum-Seekers, Provide Rent Allowance.
    The tightening up of the ease with which the applicants formerly managed to remain in the country in recent years I'd suggest is partly to do with other EU states getting peed off (I've more than once seen an African getting put back onto a plane for Ireland after arriving in Paris by French authorities), partly due to the need for tenants being supplied by east EUropeans, and partly due to the fact that an arrival can now just apply for a PPS number and, if they manage to survive in the country for a year or so (either working illegally or through support from the now enormous foreign communities here, there being now enough variant groups to succour every religious grouping/nationality/ethnicity) they can start applying for regular welfare-payments as a result of the duration of their remaining here.
    Most can also freely receive housing benefit prior to this, with few questions asked.
    Any movement to restrict any of this will of corse be opposed by the govt., as they see any possibility of a take-up of the housing product - and hence the banks - no matter how tenuous, as sacrosanct.
    Another example of how the bail-out of the banks/FF/developers chimera is not cognate with the good of the economy or the Nation as a whole.
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