Unemployment rising fastest amongst migrants

[whofearstospeak?]

Unemployment rising fastest amongst migrants - Times Online


I believe the above article represents a very serious issue within this Land as of Present and the future

[bluefish]

Why would they go home?

Most of the migrants we have in Ireland are low skilled.

The Irish dole which was designed to help Irish people is far more generous than the dole or low skilled jobs in Poland.

We simply cant continue this madness, and the real shame is that our dole will be cut to try and control it, when if we kicked out the 100,000 migrants who are on it, we could afford to keep it at the level it is to help out Irish families in hard times.

But when we do cut it, it will be Irish families we will be hurting, as the Immigrants will still be living it up on our benefits.

And wait for the jobs to return. When they do not only will we still have immigrants pouring into the country, Irish people will have to compete with all the foreigners on the dole here as well.

[factual]

Why would they go home?

Most of the migrants we have in Ireland are low skilled.

The Irish dole which was designed to help Irish people is far more generous than the dole or low skilled jobs in Poland.

We simply cant continue this madness, and the real shame is that our dole will be cut to try and control it, when if we kicked out the 100,000 migrants who are on it, we could afford to keep it at the level it is to help out Irish families in hard times.

But when we do cut it, it will be Irish families we will be hurting, as the Immigrants will still be living it up on our benefits.

And wait for the jobs to return. When they do not only will we still have immigrants pouring into the country, Irish people will have to compete with all the foreigners on the dole here as well.

I think the problem is being exaggerated. People who have been made unemployed are entitled to benefits. There will be Irish people in other EU countries benefiting in ths way.

[pete2]

Wait for the jobs to return? lol What they will be doing is sucking up retraining and reskilling courses meant for Irish.

EU freedom of labor is going to slice the throat of every Irish worker, wait and see. Either decide to do something about it by shouting loudly in your political representatives earhole, or get used to it.

[advertismo]

A report from the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI) shows that the economic crisis has resulted in sharply increased levels of unemployment among foreign workers and that the majority are choosing not to return to their home countries when they become unemployed. Last year 36,000 foreign nationals lost their jobs in Ireland, but just 15,400 left the country. - for those who have been pretending to believe that this is not in fact the case.

The only thing this article doesn't take account of is that the growth of a huge welfare-dependant immigrant community was deliberately created by FF, beginning in the mid-nineties, to kickstart the 'housing boom', which began with the destruction of Tallaght by tenement housing (the flats of 'Belgard Square'), planned since the days of Haughey.
It was a precarious balance to begin with, with welfare-funding on one side of the scale & property revenues on the other.
Now the weight of the first has fallen through the floor as the second self-combusted.

[factual]

A report from the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI) shows that the economic crisis has resulted in sharply increased levels of unemployment among foreign workers and that the majority are choosing not to return to their home countries when they become unemployed. Last year 36,000 foreign nationals lost their jobs in Ireland, but just 15,400 left the country. - for those who have been pretending to believe that this is not in fact the case.

The only thing this article doesn't take account of is that the growth of a huge welfare-dependant immigrant community was deliberately created by FF, beginning in the mid-nineties, to kickstart the 'housing boom', which began with the destruction of Tallaght by tenement housing (the flats of 'Belgard Square'), planned since the days of Haughey.
It was a precarious balance to begin with, with welfare-funding on one side of the scale & property revenues on the other.
Now the weight of the first has fallen through the floor as the second self-combusted.

Another thing that is worrying is how labour is seen as a negative. People - young people - regardless of whether they are from here originally - can contribute a lot to the economy. Yes, we are in a recession right now but they are entitled to protection too. And in the upturns we are more than happy to employ them! We can't have it both ways!

[whofearstospeak?]

I think the problem is being exaggerated. People who have been made unemployed are entitled to benefits. There will be Irish people in other EU countries benefiting in ths way.

I really dont think this is being exaggerated it is a serious problem that this country has never had to deal with, if you live in a bubble and deny there are major issues in Ireland regarding the article then I believe it is just stubborness on the part of people deny there are issues

[advertismo]

I think the problem is being exaggerated. People who have been made unemployed are entitled to benefits. There will be Irish people in other EU countries benefiting in ths way.

If they are in any great numbers, which I doubt, they should go home.
But I really don't care about what's going on elsewhere at the moment - I care about Ireland.
Is there any other EU country where they have to suffer tax-increases to pay for the unemployed immigrants of an unsustainable 'goldrush' economy ?
Any EU country heading for 20 % unemployment ?
Any other EU country that has had a greater percentage rise in it's immigrant population ?
That has more foreign children starting school than the native nationality ?
Any other country who's welfare bill will be more than half it's Product ?

[Eirenua]

What I find disturbing is what Alan Barrett has to say and is it his sentiments or the general concensus,he says;

"There is a concern that rising unemployment among mig-rant workers could result in the growth of racial unrest in the Irish population.
Research done in 1995 showed Irish attitudes to immigrants were largely positive, but Barrett warned that this might change: “We basically didn’t have any immigrants in Ireland at that time and it’s easy to be positive about something that doesn’t affect you.”

That being the case,what can be done if the non-nationals are entitled to the same benefits as Irish citizens? Is there any signs of this "racial unrest" at this moment?

[pd_phoenix]

Why would they go home?

Most of the migrants we have in Ireland are low skilled.

The Irish dole which was designed to help Irish people is far more generous than the dole or low skilled jobs in Poland.

We simply cant continue this madness, and the real shame is that our dole will be cut to try and control it, when if we kicked out the 100,000 migrants who are on it, we could afford to keep it at the level it is to help out Irish families in hard times.

But when we do cut it, it will be Irish families we will be hurting, as the Immigrants will still be living it up on our benefits.

And wait for the jobs to return. When they do not only will we still have immigrants pouring into the country, Irish people will have to compete with all the foreigners on the dole here as well.

if you havent noticed both Ireland and Poland are member sof EU and so we can't 'kick' them out