INLA dismantles another criminal gang

[32]

I recall those PIRA allegations, and believe them to be false. I well recall the many IRA punishment beatings and kneecappings that were meted out in the 80s and into the 90s in Ardoyne alone on alleged drug dealers. I didn't approve of their response, and on one occasion I took my concerns with others to Sinn Fein directly. But I did and do acknowledge that no Provos I ever encountered took anything but an extreme anti-drugs position.
It appears to me that the majority, possibly the vast majority of Irps feel the same way. I don't know for sure, as I have few dealings with them, even as individuals, but that is my impression.
However, I'm not prepared to listen to hypocritical hogwash from the INLA when I know for a fact that two of them are dealing drugs in the Markets in Belfast while their comrades-in-arms in Derry are relieving drug gangs of their narcotics at gunpoint in some misplaced show of 'community policing.'

Have you contacted the PSNI yet JC?

[JCSkinner]

Jesus wept.
Read the thread, Carrier. I don't want to pm you, 32, or anyone else about this. If I wanted to contact the IRSP, I know what their phone number is, all the more so from people posting it here repeatedly on this thread and others.
I do not believe that the INLA could possibly be unaware of the people in the Markets dealing drugs, hence it is my considered opinion that those individuals must be doing so with, if not permission, then at least the knowledge of the INLA hierarchy.
As they continue to deal with impugnity, it is clear that INLA has not intention of stopping them from going about these activities. Hence I see absolutely no point in bringing their names to the IRSP, who presumably know all about it anyway.
Hence, it'll be the PSNI hotline, thanks.
Now seriously, no more offers to call the Irps for me. I have a phone book, it's just not their number I'll be calling.

[32]

Jesus wept.
Read the thread, Carrier. I don't want to pm you, 32, or anyone else about this. If I wanted to contact the IRSP, I know what their phone number is, all the more so from people posting it here repeatedly on this thread and others.
I do not believe that the INLA could possibly be unaware of the people in the Markets dealing drugs, hence it is my considered opinion that those individuals must be doing so with, if not permission, then at least the knowledge of the INLA hierarchy.
As they continue to deal with impugnity, it is clear that INLA has not intention of stopping them from going about these activities. Hence I see absolutely no point in bringing their names to the IRSP, who presumably know all about it anyway.









All I asked you was if you had contacted the PSNI yet. Simple question, no agenda.
Hence, it'll be the PSNI hotline, thanks.
Now seriously, no more offers to call the Irps for me. I have a phone book, it's just not their number I'll be calling.

[Carrier]

Jesus wept.
Read the thread, Carrier. I don't want to pm you, 32, or anyone else about this. If I wanted to contact the IRSP, I know what their phone number is, all the more so from people posting it here repeatedly on this thread and others.
I do not believe that the INLA could possibly be unaware of the people in the Markets dealing drugs, hence it is my considered opinion that those individuals must be doing so with, if not permission, then at least the knowledge of the INLA hierarchy.
As they continue to deal with impugnity, it is clear that INLA has not intention of stopping them from going about these activities. Hence I see absolutely no point in bringing their names to the IRSP, who presumably know all about it anyway.
Hence, it'll be the PSNI hotline, thanks.
Now seriously, no more offers to call the Irps for me. I have a phone book, it's just not their number I'll be calling.

So are you going to pm me then or what's the story?

[Vox Populi]

Hence I see absolutely no point in bringing their names to the IRSP, who presumably know all about it anyway.

As you've already been informed - the IRSP at no level is aware of these individuals.

[JCSkinner]

Jesus wept.
Read the thread, Carrier. I don't want to pm you, 32, or anyone else about this. If I wanted to contact the IRSP, I know what their phone number is, all the more so from people posting it here repeatedly on this thread and others.
I do not believe that the INLA could possibly be unaware of the people in the Markets dealing drugs, hence it is my considered opinion that those individuals must be doing so with, if not permission, then at least the knowledge of the INLA hierarchy.
As they continue to deal with impugnity, it is clear that INLA has not intention of stopping them from going about these activities. Hence I see absolutely no point in bringing their names to the IRSP, who presumably know all about it anyway.
Hence, it'll be the PSNI hotline, thanks.
Now seriously, no more offers to call the Irps for me. I have a phone book, it's just not their number I'll be calling.

So are you going to pm me then or what's the story?

That'll be a no. I intend to deal with this matter beyond the confines of this bulletin board and without involving the IRSP.

[Batman]

Jesus wept.
Read the thread, Carrier. I don't want to pm you, 32, or anyone else about this. If I wanted to contact the IRSP, I know what their phone number is, all the more so from people posting it here repeatedly on this thread and others.
I do not believe that the INLA could possibly be unaware of the people in the Markets dealing drugs, hence it is my considered opinion that those individuals must be doing so with, if not permission, then at least the knowledge of the INLA hierarchy.
As they continue to deal with impugnity, it is clear that INLA has not intention of stopping them from going about these activities. Hence I see absolutely no point in bringing their names to the IRSP, who presumably know all about it anyway.
Hence, it'll be the PSNI hotline, thanks.
Now seriously, no more offers to call the Irps for me. I have a phone book, it's just not their number I'll be calling.

So are you going to pm me then or what's the story?

That'll be a no. I intend to deal with this matter beyond the confines of this bulletin board and without involving the IRSP.

Good man yourself. You've spent enough time on this bulletin board writing about it.

[Vox Populi]

[Ernesto Lynch]

The audicity of these eejits is amazing.
It's barely two years since 11 teenagers in Ardoyne committed suicide in the space of a month because of INLA threats and punishment beatings.

I'd say this particular lame propaganda exercise has more to do with positioning themselves before SF joins the Policing Board.

Please, if you mean to be derogatory, use factual statements.

As a Republican Socialist from Ardoyne in North Belfast I am aware of the inaccuracies within your statement. There were two individuals who committed suicide "which their families claimed to be a result of INLA intimidation campaigns against them" not 11.

Furthermore, over a period of almost two years, 13 youth from the greater North Belfast area took their own lives for whatever reasons. North Belfast has a population of 25,000 approx, and covers almost 20 areas or housing estates.

In fact, some of these individuals who have crudely been presented by the media to the public as mere "statistics" were in actual fact from Loyalist areas of North Belfast. So statements like yours couldn't possibly be any further from the truth.

However, allow me to address the "two" individuals that have been linked to the alleged "INLA abuse".

Barney Cairns was shot by the INLA two years before he had committed his tragic suicide.
He had like most other individuals intent on destroying and bringing havoc upon their communities had been given numerous opportunities to make good within the community. People within North Belfast can not use the RUC/PSNI as they have been at the forefront of collusion and murders directed against the North Belfast community by the very same state police force and loyalist death squads. So in the absence of such an impartial police force, they had no other choice but to go to republicans.

If you go to an army for help, then they will use military and martial law. The people of North Belfast knew this, and indeed was the required and requested punishment. In fact whenever Republicans refused to take physical force action against individuals, the community turned against them with disgruntled attitudes.
Barney Cairns had been given more than his fair share of chances. He refused to heed them and took this as a weakness of republicans.

However, what wasn't made public was the suicide note that he and his friend cheetah had left. Barney was heartbroken because he had fallen out with his girlfriend. He was in a mess with drink and drugs, had become the victim of paranoia and some would suggest that he had more than one personality. Barney was too far gone with his habits to think straight.

Cheetah on the other hand, had never been assulted by the INLA. I am led to believe that he had been arrested by the said group on a few occasions, but had been released without punishment on all occasions.

He had tried to kill himself before, and had done so a few weeks previous. Cheetah left a note claiming that he wished to be with his dead father. The INLA were not mentioned in either of the two letters left by these youths in their moment of extreme despair.

The suicides of these individuals was tragic. It was tragic in the sense that they were used to score political points, the real root of the cause was neglected and other media personalities were manipulated because of their desire to be on TV. People who didn't wish to accept responsibility for their own parental neglect were given a platform to attribute blame to a section of the community. This was orchestrated by the other republicans in a direct attempt to demonise the RSM and to launch their CRJ programme in the shadows of such a traumatic time, and a time whenever the RSM were gaining massive support in north Belfast.

Some of the victims of which you refer to were female. Some were from protestant backgrounds and some had never even heard of the INLA. I think you agree that it was all tragic and should not be used to score points. I hope this sheds some light on your incorrect perceptions.

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Furthermore, these young lads were all involved in a suicide attempt at the age of 13. They had to be cut down by the Fire Service in the homes of one of these young lads and at the time were blaming harrassment by a head teacher in a local school. This head teacher took a nervous breakdown and had to retire from his career as a result. There are two still alive who made this pact whenever they were 13. Four have since succeeded in committing suicide, tragically.