Yet another problem arising from Mass Immigration

[georgedillon]

Most people who discuss mass immigration think in terms of the immigrants as coming from an age-group of perhaps 20-40. Those of us in the majority who oppose mass immigration also worry about the cultural and social effects of large numbers of children being born to these non-nationals. There is already extraordinary stress on the educational system in many primary schools in Dublin. Just in yesterday's Irish Times we read that there are over 150 languages being spoken in our schools--the great majority of them of no importance to anyone except their speakers, but a huge problem for our schools.

Yet there is one aspect of mass immigration which I don't think has been addressed. That is the increasing numbers of entire families who are moving into our country. During an hour spent in a Dublin shopping centre yesterday I must have seen between a dozen and twenty cases of middle-aged to elderly foreigners from some of the countries that are supplying mass immigration. These people did not appear to be of an age likely to be participating in the work force.

Now before the usual brigade jump in to ask me how I know they are immigrants rather than holiday-makers, well, I have no way of knowing. The fact is that this slovenly government and its even more servile opposition (from FG to SF and Green) has never bothered to ask the basic statistical questions about mass immigration. In fact I suspect that our sloppy and slovenly government would be unable to supply the figures of how many parents of immigrant workers have come into the country.

If we could establish these figures, we might begin to calculate the extra pressure these people will put on our health care and other services in the years to come. Despite never having contributed in any way to our country--and I don't mean just paying taxes--they will take their place among those entitled to free health care and care for the elderly.

It's yet one more reason to challenge the Madness of Mass Immigration. The situation is truly critical.
GD

[smiffy]

Just in yesterday's Irish Times we read that there are over 150 languages being spoken in our schools--the great majority of them of no importance to anyone except their speakers, but a huge problem for our schools.

Where does it say that?

[Pidge]

How do you even know they were immigrants? Do you really base your information on immigration based on the amount of people you see with darker skin in the shopping centre?

[georgedillon]

I think it's around page five, where they give a list. The IT gives a figure, if I recollect, in excess of 160, and lists the languages.

Of course the editorial comment, that they are in the main languages of interest to none but their speakers, comes from me !! Not likely the IT would say it, but it's true. Anyone rushing out to learn Latvian? Or Ewe?
GD

[hiding behind a poster]

Those of us in the majority who oppose mass immigration

Firstly, how do you define "mass immigration"? At what point does immigration stop being just immigration, and start becoming "mass immigration"? Is it just according to whoever's making the statement?
Secondly, you have no evidence whatsoever to say that "the majority oppose" whatever you define as being "mass immigration".

[quote:2ammn6bq]During an hour spent in a Dublin shopping centre yesterday I must have seen between a dozen and twenty cases of middle-aged to elderly foreigners from some of the countries that are supplying mass immigration.

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How do you know? Did you ask them a series of questions?

[smiffy]

I think it's around page five, where they give a list. The IT gives a figure, if I recollect, in excess of 160, and lists the languages.

That's a list of languages spoken in the country. Where does it say there are 150 (or whatever number) of languages spoken in 'our' schools?

[georgedillon]

Bilge talks about "people with darker skin".

It appears Pilge thinks that Poles, Latvians, Russians etc have darker skin than Irish people. S/he also seems to believe I am deaf, and can not identify a foreign language from English/Irish.

I am happy to tell Bidge that I am not deaf.

I do however recognize racism when I see it, and that is precisely what I see in this pidge-bilge about "people with darker skin".
GD

[Catalpa]

How do you even know they were immigrants? Do you really base your information on immigration based on the amount of people you see with darker skin in the shopping centre?

Pidge if you had been moving around this city for as many decades as I have you wouldn't be asking How do you even know they were immigrants? because they sure as hell wer'nt visible in these numbers 10 let alone 20 years ago!

Maybe they just sprang up out of the ground in the meantime though? :wink:

[smiffy]

Pidge if you had been moving around this city for as many decades as I have you wouldn't be asking How do you even know they were immigrants? because they sure as hell wer'nt visible in these numbers 10 let alone 20 years ago!

Maybe they just sprang up out of the ground in the meantime though? :wink:

Well, georgedillon has already conceded that he doesn't know if they're immigrants, so there's no real need to take the rest of his post seriously (although I would like an answer of his claims about the IT).

[Catalpa]

Pidge if you had been moving around this city for as many decades as I have you wouldn't be asking How do you even know they were immigrants? because they sure as hell wer'nt visible in these numbers 10 let alone 20 years ago!

Maybe they just sprang up out of the ground in the meantime though? :wink:

Well, georgedillon has already conceded that he doesn't know if they're immigrants, so there's no real need to take the rest of his post seriously (although I would like an answer of his claims about the IT).

I know :wink: