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About LinkBacksI'm not making any unfounded assumptions nor am I jumping to wild conclusions.Originally Posted by Factorem
The rapists and abusers were covered for by their fellow clergy: that's a proven fact.
All involved are scum.
I'm not making any unfounded assumptions nor am I jumping to wild conclusions.
The rapists and abusers were covered for by their fellow clergy: that's a proven fact.
All involved are scum.
"Browning points"? Don't think I want to know what that entails.
Absolutely, "let the children come to me" said Jesus, allegedly; but the Catholic church has for centuries protected child rapists. It has even been headed by incestuous child rapists.
Spoken like a true fanatic. Are you related to Factual?
Last edited by Mr Crowley; 9th April 2009 at 11:55 PM.
You are. You're assuming that I care more for the protection of the guilty than for victims of abuse. Which is false.
Okay, smart alec, what screening processes are Maynooth seminarians subjected to?
Your previous posts, both in content and tone, suggest otherwise.
Have you made an explicit call for the expulsion from their positions and criminal prosecution of all those involved in raping and abusing children and covering the rape and abuse up?
The Church are complying fully with the law. (in case you've forgotten).
They didn't for decades , in case you had forgotten.
I note you still haven't made an explicit call for rapists and sexual abusers and those who covered up for them to be removed from their positions in the Church and prosecuted.
Enough of your pious cant: ignore list for you.
And we were getting along so well.
I won't be making any explicit calls to satisfy your little foaming-at-the-mouth rant. That's for higher authorities (both civil and religious) to decide on.
Not 'smart alec' at all, Phineas.
This information is available online, accessible by any idiot whatsoever.
See, for example, the Ferns Report, Section 3.1. The details of the areas now covered by psychological screening at Maynooth are clearly indicated.
Now, to reiterate my original questions:
Originally Posted by Utopian Hermit Monk View Post
This is outrageous.
This poster obviously has some major personal issues to deal with, but that is no excuse for his general slander of the small group of seminarians in Ireland only remaining seminary, St. Patrick's College, Maynooth.
What is Phinaeus's connection with Maynooth?
How/why is he so familiar with Maynooth's screening process for prospective entrants?
How does Phinaeus know that a majority of Maynooth seminarians are homosexuals, whole a minority are "seriously sexually deviant"?
Phinaeus indicates that his personal knowledge of these 'facts' is based on conversations with this small group of Maynooth seminarians. I wonder how he came to have these conversations with the seminarians.
p.s. In the absence of clarifications on Phineas's part, I will just assume that he is full of s*it!
According to yourself, your information is not based on any online document, but rather on personal conversations with Maynooth seminarians. On the basis of these conversations, you concluded that most of these seminarians are homosexuals, while a minority are "seriously sexually deviant" (you didn't explain what, precisely, you mean by that). I remain curious regarding the amount of contact you appear to maintain with Maynooth seminarians.
For my part, I have rarely driven through Maynooth, have never visited the seminary, and do not know a single seminarian. Your 'insider' perspective could be very enlightening.
Factorem, I still can't understand how you jump to minimise the damage to the church before you have a word of sympathy about the children. It's the same attitude that has allowed this type of thing to go on for so long.
I saw the bishop on the news today saying his piece. He was talking about the young people who had become disillusioned with the church as if they were to be pitied and as if there was something wrong with them. It never ceases to amaze me how out of touch the clergy are.
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