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    As we've already discussed, whether anti-catholic arguments are valid or not depends on their content, and not on where they are uttered from.
    Absolutely right, aggressivesecularist. A certain European president that I met a few times once said. "Even when the wrong person says the right thing, it's still the right thing."

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    Where's Fr Sean Healy this week? It's usually impossible to shut this guy's big mouth.
    This week not a squeak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partizan View Post
    The assetts of the Roman Cathlic Church should be seized immediatley to pay off the victims for the years of abuse. It is scandalous that Michael Woods came to an agreement with the bishops that the Church would only pay out 10& of the amount involved. ******************** that, seize the lot, churches and all and sell them off.
    Agreed. But I thought the deal was done by Bertie.

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    Just think 800 predatory abusers identified. They each probably abused up to 40 children a year over a 30 year span. Thats 1200 each. Overall a total of 960000 children (impossible I suppose) over a period of 30 years. If each of those children were still alive and sued the majority of their claims would bring home somewhere between €100,000 and €300,000. You may say that money has nothing to do with it but those figures are a reflection of the truly catastrophic nature of the harm that was done in this society.

    This report is a hammer blow to the authority of the church. but because Irish people in general turned a blind eye to the suffering of of their young brothers and sisters we are culpable to a high degree as well. I really think we are akin to those good Germans who did not ask too many questions when their jewish neighbours were loaded into trucks to be "resettled".

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    Agreed. But I thought the deal was done by Bertie.

    Any temporal wealth that all those religious orders that were endemic child abusers should be voluntarily disposed now and put into a trust for all of those vitictims. It should have been done a few years ago at the height of the property boom.

    All those lives that have been destroyed and wounded beyond the comprehension of those of us who can never understand because we were never in their shoes need a vast amount of resources to help heal those unbearable wounds. Resources the State simply dones not have.

    There will never be a new Pentecost for the Church here until it has completely purged itself of this filth and has made temporal amends for it too. Rotten branches bear rotten fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace Horse View Post
    Where's Fr Sean Healy this week? It's usually impossible to shut this guy's big mouth.
    This week not a squeak.
    Amazing how he won't lead the conference of Religious now with a call for all their assets to be liquidated. Always was one for leading on the soft stuff though, and part of the partnership process, working hand in glove with corrupt FF govt, giving us the guff about the marginalised. You won't get anyone more marginalised or alienated from this State and the Church than the victims who know they have already been sold out.

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    Heard on the radio this a.m that the compensation bill now stands at 1.2 billion...and rising!

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    Is it a misperception that the Catholic abuse perpetrators in the United States were primarily Irish-American, rather than say Polich-American or Italian-American?

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    I think it would be as well to rely on evidence rather than perception. It is my impression, based on personal observation, that Catholic priests in Italy live openly with "wives" and that members of their flock are fine with that, but I can't claim that it's generally true.

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