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    Evening Herald a disgrace?

    Todays headline is something like this: 'Adams sparks terror alert'. A nice headline to sell a newspaper.

    True story: Gerry Adams and his associate Richard McAuley were delayed at a US airport leading to Mr. Adams missing a later appointment.

    The rag that is the Evening Herald is helping the cause of Sinn Fein. Irish people are not stupid and when they realise that headlines like the above are so sensationalist, they will question all the other earth-shattering 'exclusives' of the only evening newspaper available in Dublin.

    I wish they'd tell the truth.
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    Re: Evening Herald a disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev408
    Todays headline is something like this: 'Adams sparks terror alert'. A nice headline to sell a newspaper.

    True story: Gerry Adams and his associate Richard McAuley were delayed at a US airport leading to Mr. Adams missing a later appointment.

    The rag that is the Evening Herald is helping the cause of Sinn Fein. Irish people are not stupid and when they realise that headlines like the above are so sensationalist, they will question all the other earth-shattering 'exclusives' of the only evening newspaper available in Dublin.

    I wish they'd tell the truth.
    It is a complete and utter rag!

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    Club Annabel, Joe O'Reilly, the various dead baby stories...
    I think the public know well what to expect from the Herald at this stage. It seems to me the only people buying it are either looking for flats or Polish (Fridays only.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner
    Club Annabel, Joe O'Reilly, the various dead baby stories...
    I think the public know well what to expect from the Herald at this stage. It seems to me the only people buying it are either looking for flats or Polish (Fridays only.)
    I'm not so sure. Perhaps I simply have less faith in the population at large, but the Herald and other tabloids are still worryingly popular, and worryingly widely believed.
    Heavy words are so lightly thrown.

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    Popular, yes. Believed? I'm not so sure. A lot of people are very media savvy, and know to read the Sun or Mirror like the comics they are.
    A friend of mine who worked in a newsagents and read all the papers every day once described the tabloids very adroitly - he called them the 'Disney version' of the news.
    By that, he meant that they did indeed contain aspects of news, but deviated from them for infotainment purposes in the same way that Disney robbed the integrity from traditional folk tales in order to create their ersatz animated displays.
    People sometimes don't want the heavy analysis, the tightly spaced column inches, the convoluted blow-by-blows, the tedious speeches repeated at tedious length.
    Sometimes, they are happy enough with a light-hearted summary of what's going on in the world, and are able to interpret such an approach to information with the degree of scepticism it requires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner
    Popular, yes. Believed? I'm not so sure. A lot of people are very media savvy, and know to read the Sun or Mirror like the comics they are.
    A friend of mine who worked in a newsagents and read all the papers every day once described the tabloids very adroitly - he called them the 'Disney version' of the news.
    By that, he meant that they did indeed contain aspects of news, but deviated from them for infotainment purposes in the same way that Disney robbed the integrity from traditional folk tales in order to create their ersatz animated displays.
    People sometimes don't want the heavy analysis, the tightly spaced column inches, the convoluted blow-by-blows, the tedious speeches repeated at tedious length.
    Sometimes, they are happy enough with a light-hearted summary of what's going on in the world, and are able to interpret such an approach to information with the degree of scepticism it requires.
    But trust me JC, I'll agree with the Bear here. Its hard to believe how many times you might be sitting down at a table chatting about politics and/or current affairs, and start to hear people quote directly from the mirror (whom I detest more than all for particular reasons), and the Sun
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    But what they're quoting from the Sun or Mirror or Herald is more than likely factually accurate, though.
    What people sometimes forget while lambasting tabloids is how accurate they tend to be. Yup, they stretch stories to near breaking point, make too much of salacious detail, diminish the importance of serious issues and so on, but the actual facts are rarely wrong.
    These papers have batteries of lawyers to keep them on the straight and narrow. And everytime one of them gets a word wrong, either it ends up covered by the 'qualities' when they hit court, or else you'll see the retraction the following week in the same paper. Not an inaccuracy passes unnoticed these days, I would have thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner
    What people sometimes forget while lambasting tabloids is how accurate they tend to be.
    They're accurate in much the same way that you're logical. :P

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    Well, if you accept that they are very largely accurate, then I guess they are.
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    Re: Evening Herald a disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev408
    Todays headline is something like this: 'Adams sparks terror alert'. A nice headline to sell a newspaper.

    True story: Gerry Adams and his associate Richard McAuley were delayed at a US airport leading to Mr. Adams missing a later appointment.

    The rag that is the Evening Herald is helping the cause of Sinn Fein. Irish people are not stupid and when they realise that headlines like the above are so sensationalist, they will question all the other earth-shattering 'exclusives' of the only evening newspaper available in Dublin.

    I wish they'd tell the truth.

    Ah lads, would ye ever ease up on the old victim complex. The fact is that Adams's passport rang alarm bells, and that's entirely because of his own past, and his connections with and likely membership of a terrorist group - its nothing to do with what Independent Newspapers think of him. Now if any other Irish party leader was stopped by US security because of something dodgy in his past, Independent Newspapers, and all other Irish media outlets, would make a huge story about it - and all other parties, Sinn Fein included, would seek to make capital out of it. So you'll just have to accept that Adams's terrorism links are fair game - if you think it makes him a political/media liability, then ditch him as party president, and get someone else - but in the meantime, you can't have it both ways.
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