Federal Ireland

[cyberianpan]

As a small nation it would be wasteful duplication of resources to go down the road of 4 parliaments for 6 million people. The 2 I proposed would do.

Well there already is a Senate for Mammy O'Rourke & other fallen angels ... so are you proposing 2x2 = 4 ?

[Worldbystorm]

Someone needs to do something, as opposed to talking about it.

We need public debates.

Meetings. etc., etc.



Anyone up for it?

Another 'Republican' party? God almightly the place is groaning under the weight of debates almost no-one goes to, position papers almost no-one reads and politicians who never contest elections. There is massive public indifference to these issues. About the only semi-serious organised groupings outside PSF are FF to a limited extent and parts of Labour.

I think the Irish people are unlikely to ever vote for a federal Ireland along the lines of Éire Nua. Actually no, I'd say that will almost certainly never happen. People don't seem to want more political structures. Nor do they seem to want local tax raising structures, as evidenced by the anti-bin tax campaigns. What people appear to want is central government to do the heavy lifting on the taxation side, their local TDs to assist them on local issues and sometimes use councillors as intermediaries on planning and other local issues.

[Worldbystorm]

As a small nation it would be wasteful duplication of resources to go down the road of 4 parliaments for 6 million people. The 2 I proposed would do.

Well there already is a Senate for Mammy O'Rourke & other fallen angels ... so are you proposing 2x2 = 4 ?

The national parliament is made up of two elements, the Seanad and the Dáil. It's not two individual parliaments.

[JCSkinner]

The Ullans Ireland website addresses this according to my suggestions, from a linguistic point of view.

While your point about a UI needing to be inclusive to those of Unionist traditions is well made, I am sorry to point out to you that the English dialectal form known variously as Ulster-Scots or Ullans, is not a language at all, but is merely English spoken with a broad Antrim accent, larded with occasional dialectal words mostly of Gaelic or Lallans origin.
The EU conducted an examination and found that there was not one native speaker of this so-called language. Yet its proponents, which have included a convicted child molester and the former Drumcree OO leader, have used it as leverage to part us from our taxpayers money.

[teanganua]

Those hostile to the Ullans / Ulster Scots tongue forget taht is is the mother tongue of heros for Ireland such as Henry Joy Mc Cracken and his colleagues who died for this country as opposed to selling it out.

On the Lowlands Listserve, it is recognised as a language.

As for the EU, they wont call a banana a banana though its yellow and bendy if the curve is too small or too great. So what do they know?

I repect peoples opinions, but as one who regularily deals with Slovaks, Polish, Serbs and Russians both in a peronal and work capacity, I can tell you if we applied the same to them as we do to Ullans we'd say they all spoke variations of Russian.

My little Serbian can be understood by my friends from all those nations.

Maybe Ullans is a dialect of Lallans, akin to the Doric dialect in the north of the country, but it deserves recognition anyway.