Google - Champions of Internet Privacy

[keira]

Actually, the US government isn't planning to use this stuff to catch paedophiles. Their intent is to demostrate that porngraphic images can be accessed by children without any attempt to validate their age.

Essentially, a 15 year can look at dirty pictures. The overreeach is in the US governments request to all search records for a defined time period irrespective of their nature. All the results of classic conservative double talk on big government.

The US supreme court has already ruled that it's the parents job to regulate what their kids do on the net, not the govt, in the same case they struck down the Communications Decency Act as unconstitutional.

The reasons behind the subpoenas might be noble. But then again they might not. I.e. - pull at peoples heartstrings 'protect children' and it becomes easier to get the info, thereby establishing the norm that the government can have access to private information.

[Pidge]

The reasons behind the subpoenas might be noble. But then again they might not. I.e. - pull at peoples heartstrings 'protect children' and it becomes easier to get the info, thereby establishing the norm that the government can have access to private information.

[Jim84]

The US supreme court has already ruled that it's the parents job to regulate what their kids do on the net, not the govt, in the same case they struck down the Communications Decency Act as unconstitutional.

Was it not the 1998 Child Online Protection Act (COPA) law?

Either was, the information they want, can be got through other source like comScore or NetRatings. So the reason why they went after the search engines seems a little peculiar to me.

[keira]

The US supreme court has already ruled that it's the parents job to regulate what their kids do on the net, not the govt, in the same case they struck down the Communications Decency Act as unconstitutional.

Was it not the 1998 Child Online Protection Act (COPA) law?

Either was, the information they want, can be got through other source like comScore or NetRatings. So the reason why they went after the search engines seems a little peculiar to me.

Well, going after search engines and sending subpoenas is surely going to grab headlines more, no?

[Jim84]

Well, going after search engines and sending subpoenas is surely going to grab headlines more, no?

If there motive was to build a convincing argument to persuade the Supreme Court that the law is Constitutional, comScore or NetRatings were probable the best source of information.

What reason is there to grab media headlines ... it's not as if it's a political question.

[AFJROTC Cadet]

Google refuse to cooperate with State Dept

When is the government going to far? I have no problem with using these records to catch paedophile etc..

But when the search engine is used to harass anti-war activist, how many people would be willing to Google (Bush should be arrested for war crimes) if you know the State Dept in America is going to see who is asking the question.

Fair Play to Google!

This site might be monitered cause I live in America.

Messege for the FBI: "the terrorists are in the middle east not in Ireland,look at a map"

thats just in case they are watching this site

[Jim84]

This site might be monitered cause I live in America.

Messege for the FBI: "the terrorists are in the middle east not in Ireland,look at a map"

thats just in case they are watching this site

It's unlikely they monitor this site, but then again when Bush was coming to Ireland they might have...

But it be stupid of them not to monitor forums on the internet.

[AFJROTC Cadet]

Its bill gates fault, if it wasnt for him, the FBI wouldnt have the tech to monitor as much as they do

[jmcc]

Its bill gates fault, if it wasnt for him, the FBI wouldnt have the tech to monitor as much as they do

Yes. Perhaps FBI are using Windows monitoring software and it is on the blink. Hence the request for the search engine records.

Regards...jmcc

[hivemind]

How does getting a huge (and I mean vast) amount of search data from Google prove 15 year olds can access porn on the internet? Surely putting a 15 year old in front of a computer for 10 minutes would prove that?

Due to the spy agencies current habit of hoovering up any and all data whether it's relevant or not I wouldn't be at all surprised if this site, along with millions and millions of others, resides in an NSA database somewhere. If google can cache a decent percentrage of the internet I don't see why Uncle Sam can't.

Don't worry. A side effect of this sort of mindless data acquisition is that nobody really reads any of it and I doubt even the secret service has time to follow up on every web page and message board post that contains the words 'bush' and 'hate' in proximity to each other. Do worry a bit though, if you're ever in a position where someone powerful wants to discredit you I'm sure a little trawl (in the interests of national security don'cha know) could be authorised and some posts from here might be front page news. I recommend being born again, that way you can wear a halo and disavow any and all posts made during this 'troubled time in your life'.