Cowen: "No ministers" invloved in Anglo shares scandal

[libertarian-right]

THE public must be assured that no minister got such loans. Some of them — Mary Coughlan, Mary Hanafin and Willie O’Dea — had no problem stating they had no dealings with Anglo Irish. Why are the six so secretive? There must be no suggestion of a conflict of interest in the nationalisation of the bank.

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[Ah Well]

Will we call them the Teflon Ten?

As I put in an earlier post/thread, I'd call them the Golden Horde (hoarding their ill gotten gains) but that would be a disservice to Simon Carmody and the other members of that great former Band of similar name or indeed the Tatar-Mongol state established in the 1240s.

[alonso]

Message to Enda Kenny and any Fine Gaeler:

[SIZE=7]USE DÁIL PRIVILEGE!!!![/SIZE]

[The Underdog]

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Does anyone know why the above story never took off. Its even more relvant now, but it seems to have died a death.

Why arnt the opposition asking day in and day out in the dail "who are the six cabinet ministers who have refused to reveal if they have loans with anglo ?"

[thecretinhop]

"Has the rumour, printed in the Examiner a few weeks ago, that 6 Cabinet ministers have rufused to reveal if they had loans with Anglo been disounted yet ? "


Yes this is crucial, and also im 95% sure the mail on sunday a few weeks ago
asked them all...

[alonso]

Could prominent members of the opposition also have large loans from Anglo? Or did you need to provide a FF political donation receipt when applying for a loan?

not necessarily. A Cumann membership card does the job too.

[cyberianpan]

Originally Posted by cyberianpan
How many people do you know ?

Does Cowen know who each of his TD's know ?

Sounds like he got the 10 names somehow and then asked his ministers and they said no !

Now let's say a person can "know" 50 people ... say counting significant senators , former ministers that FF has 100 "important" people ... that would be 5,000 people they know - allowing for some overlaps say 3,000

So 10 big business people were involved - there's less than 15,000 millionaires in the country AFAIK and probably only say 1,000 big enough to be called "prominent" ... so Anglo targeted 1 in 100 of that group ....

I think we can expect on average that FF top 100 people would know at least 1 in 5 of that 1,000 big well on average

So we are bound to find some connection

The issue will be its significance.

cYp

Who died and made you Carol Vorderman?

The model I presented makes reasonable assumptions - and the result is that for the top 100 FFers we can assume:

- That 200 of the 3,000 people "known" to them could be one on the Anglo 10
- And indeed that 2 of the Anglo 10 are likely known to them

So unless FG can prove some very significant connection then they've nothing.

cYp