Sunday Times - Cowen not up to the Challenge

[Ah Well]

the old irish maxim - "give them everythin' but the vote"

Sadly others didn't follow suit

[Digout]

We need to get some guns and remove the cancer that is FF forever.

[Ah Well]

We need to get some guns and remove the cancer that is FF forever.

That's a lot of killing ... but hey ....

[Kev408]

We could vote in Fine Gael and then kill them? The problems with Irish society lie within the parties we vote for. There is little or no principle left. It's really that simple.

[Ah Well]

We could vote in Fine Gael and then kill them? The problems with Irish society lie within the parties we vote for. There is little or no principle left. It's really that simple.

Well, at this stage I won't vote and prob wouldn't anyway (if it's the case that a vote is given in the first place) for anything that involves FF. And yes there are major probs with Irish Society and I question the very concept of Society here. Personally, I view the whole thing and country as a location where the vast majority of people decide upon things in a personal and prob selfish take rather than for the general good approach - that's just the way it is.

And I'm not remotely a Member of the FG Party, or an ardent Supporter or anything. But I would submit for what I see, hear and have experienced from them that they have a little more principle than the goons in power, flawed and all that it probably is or would become apparent upon assuming power. Power in these times means a very different thing to what it meant 2 years ago. So if it is to be out with the refuse and in with the new hopefully principled and good alternative

[Kev408]

Well, at this stage I won't vote and prob wouldn't anyway (if it's the case that a vote is given in the first place) for anything that involves FF. And yes there are major probs with Irish Society and I question the very concept of Society here. Personally, I view the whole thing and country as a location where the vast majority of people decide upon things in a personal and prob selfish take rather than for the general good approach - that's just the way it is.

And I'm not remotely a Member of the FG Party, or an ardent Supporter or anything. But I would submit for what I see, hear and have experienced from them that they have a little more principle than the goons in power, flawed and all that it probably is or would become apparent upon assuming power. Power in these times means a very different thing to what it meant 2 years ago. So if it is to be out with the refuse and in with the new hopefully principled and good alternative

Fair point. I could still never vote for FG - it would kill my parents! Joking aside, I find FF and FG pretty much the same. Both their obsessions are being in power. When we finally realise that these people are out for themselves only, when we realise that there is hardly a shred of principle left in Irish politics, then we'll march properly and in concert.

[Ah Well]

Fair point. I could still never vote for FG - it would kill my parents! Joking aside, I find FF and FG pretty much the same. Both their obsessions are being in power. When we finally realise that these people are out for themselves only, when we realise that there is hardly a shred of principle left in Irish politics, then we'll march properly and in concert.

I think that's not going to happen at all tho (see my last post in the Dickus Roche thread)

[alchemist]

If they knew about a share support scheme then they knew about the Anglo/IL&P deal.

Monday will be interesting on the ISEQ and CDS markets.

Even if this is not the end of the government, it could well be the end of our economy.

Its a waiting game for it all to come out. Brian Lenihan might regret calling that transaction 'treasonous'.