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About LinkBacksSpeak of the PDs and they willl comeOriginally Posted by gnash1970
Speak of the PDs and they willl come
Now, there's a first.
Gnash the people that are required for this are Chemical engineers, fitters, and so forth, why the workers are walking out, is that they know they are being replaced by cheaper labour, that they skills necessary are available in Britain. People are not going to sit by and cut their own throat, regarding wage and employment levels. From your free market point of view, of course all labour are competing against each other, but that does not mean people should stand be and be walked over.
In fairness, you know nothing about my "free market point of view". If a specialised project is put out to tender, given to an Italian firm and they have a "permanent specialist skilled workforce which it directly employs" is it not reasonable that they use those people?
Jacobs : Providers of Professional Technical Services
Much as the complaining is going on the company is clearly employing specialists to do the work.
Unless its available locally which it isn't then what is the issue ?
Or do people want Amateurs with no experience to build a chemical plant ?
is there a better source than a filthy discredited tory rag?
Can't vouch one way or another for the Grimsby Telegraph but for what it's worth...
Lots of commentary from the proletariat as well Harpo
BREAKING NEWS: 600 workers to strike at Lindsey Oil Refinery - and colleagues walk out in support
Apparently "the specialists" are to be moored in Grimsby harbour and bussed in. You should like that
if you are not a pd thenn sorry my badYour post on the bid process being tendered etc seemed to my reading as giving a tender process an extra weight that it did not deserve when it comes to preserving workeer's rights. A tender gets you what you asked for. The process in and of itself is no gurantee. Indeed it may well be that the other failed compans offered lower labout rates but were disqualified for technical reasons. we dont know but the the point is tendering means very little. The Gama workers in moneypoint were off a tendered contract and look at how well they did.
On the above quote i dont think he is referring to your i,e you but rather uses your in a general sense to mean anyone looking at this from a free market point of view. But thats a sidebar.
I would suspect the Italians are the experts and the est europeans the labourers but we surely need more info on this.
However my gut tells me that someone is getting screwed here and it aint the italains. I note that the poor fecjkers are also sleeping offshore and bussed in. You reckon the italians are there with them?
This sums up the feelings of the workers.
BREAKING NEWS: 600 workers to strike at Lindsey Oil Refinery - and colleagues walk out in supporttez you sound like a grade A prat. this is the tip of the iceberg. they started at coryton last year and things will only get worse for us all in this spineless country we call home. well done to all the workers who walked out the gate and made a stand. i am an ex-welder, now in the forces and decided 6 years ago that the game was going down the tubes and i was getting out. i feel sorry for the older lads i used to work with, the ones that are to old to retrain and start anew. you bleeding heart liberals are the major cause of the problems we face in Britain today. we have old people who cannot afford to heat their homes or eat properly due to the current economic depression and soaring unemployment levels but your happy to hand out jobs to europeans. i think enoughs enough. lets get ourselves back on our own feet and then we can start other nationalites. if you are scared of being labelled a rascist for speaking out about these issues then thats ok, but im not and never have been rascist and i refuse to be cowed into remaining silent because people tag you with a label.
How can Jacobs employ Italians to work in Grimsby when they have just told some of their local workforce that they are to be made redundant Angry, Grimsby
I dont normally agree with strikes but in this case you have my support. Why do we suddenly have to have all these workers shipped in when weve managed all the previous years without them. I work opposite the floating hotel, we have constant buses and coaches taking up all the space and Ive never seen ONE of these workers in the local cafe! So theyre doing nothing for the local economy just taking local jobs. Go lads!!!!! sharon, grimsby
Tez and the likes honestly do not know what they are talking about. I work on that site on the same project as the italians and so far it has been a step back NOT a step forward in building this HDS site. nearly 200 hundred british workers have been put on notice and been REPLACED by foreign workers! long and short of it. The current main contractor was able to complete the project from the start, so what has changed all of a sudden? what are these "specialist" skills needed that us british workers are incapable of? the current NATIONAL agreement states that all local labour should be exhausted before seeking elsewhere to fill jobs. At the end of the day I will work alongside anybody of any nationaltiy, race, creed or religion as long as they got the job fair and square. Jamie, Cleethorpes
And it looks set to get worse!
On behalf of the UKWelder force, we will be there tommorrow. its a disgrace! 1000s of welder platers riggers etc etc etc sat at home while the foreign 'workers' take our jobs! stand up and fight! Everyone who wants to make a change be at the gates of LOR tommorow morning! regardless of trade employment status etc BE THERE!
How can anyone think this is acceptable? any other country would have turned vigilantie! ASMEIX6G, sat at home in
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