Is Bertie working for the Carlyle Group(closely linked to the Bush Family)

[NapperTandy]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrmbojN3lbU]YouTube - Bertie Ahern Gaffe - calls GW Bush great[/ame]

Bertie talking about the 'Great' President Bush.

I was reading Frank Connolly today, and he seems to be hinting at the fact that Bertie has some involvement with the Carlyle Group, Carlyle Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia concerning the sale of the Irish banks. If this is true, this is a very worrying development, the Carlyle Group make SPECTRE SPECTRE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia look like choirboys. Has Bertie confirmed who he was representing, when he met with Irish banks recently? The Irish government issued a statement after the meeting saying he was not acting on their behalf, I thought that was unusual for them to do that at the time.

Could Bertie be the 'New' Dermot MacMurrough?

Dermot MacMurrough - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Diarmaid Mac Murchadha (later known as Diarmaid na nGall or "Dermot of the Foreigners"), anglicized as Dermot MacMurrough (1110 - 1 May 1171) was a King of Leinster in Ireland. Ousted as King of Leinster in 1166, he sought military assistance from King Henry II of England to retake his kingdom. In return, MacMurrough pledged an Oath of Allegiance to Henry, who sent troops in support. As a further thanks for his reinstatement, MacMurrough's daughter Aoife was married to Richard de Clare, the 2nd Earl of Pembroke and a Cambro-Norman lord, known as "Strongbow". Henry II then mounted a larger second invasion in 1171 to ensure his control over Strongbow, since when parts or all of Ireland has been ruled or reigned over by the monarchs of England.

[KirkLazarus]

the following in the video

signs of untruth

- Blinking - YES
- Head Twitches - YES
- Lip Quivers - YES

to be sure to be sure,

to the basement of Mountjoy with the treasonous ahern - waterboard the animal now

[youngdan]

Shame on both of you for casting doubt on who Bertie is working for. Who will ye slime next and say they are working for the money masters, Tony Blair of John Major who both sacrificed so much for the English people?

[Sidewinder]

I look forward to the day when the despicable little runt is dragged in chains bleeding through the streets while the vengeful mob pelts him with rocks and broken bottles, before impaling the little f***er on the Spire.

Ahern is the lowest filth imaginable.

[cathal maguidhir]

"working for the money masters," not a big surprise ! there is no one else to work for ,they own all the money

[Duth Ealla]

Do the Carlyle group pay in sterling or in Dollars?

Is it not time that the man resigned his seat.

[VoxII]

YouTube - Bertie Ahern Gaffe - calls GW Bush great

Bertie talking about the 'Great' President Bush.

I was reading Frank Connolly today, and he seems to be hinting at the fact that Bertie has some involvement with the Carlyle Group, Carlyle Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia concerning the sale of the Irish banks. If this is true, this is a very worrying development, the Carlyle Group make SPECTRE SPECTRE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia look like choirboys. Has Bertie confirmed who he was representing, when he met with Irish banks recently? The Irish government issued a statement after the meeting saying he was not acting on their behalf, I thought that was unusual for them to do that at the time.

Could Bertie be the 'New' Dermot MacMurrough?

Dermot MacMurrough - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Diarmaid Mac Murchadha (later known as Diarmaid na nGall or "Dermot of the Foreigners"), anglicized as Dermot MacMurrough (1110 - 1 May 1171) was a King of Leinster in Ireland. Ousted as King of Leinster in 1166, he sought military assistance from King Henry II of England to retake his kingdom. In return, MacMurrough pledged an Oath of Allegiance to Henry, who sent troops in support. As a further thanks for his reinstatement, MacMurrough's daughter Aoife was married to Richard de Clare, the 2nd Earl of Pembroke and a Cambro-Norman lord, known as "Strongbow". Henry II then mounted a larger second invasion in 1171 to ensure his control over Strongbow, since when parts or all of Ireland has been ruled or reigned over by the monarchs of England.

more you don't get on mainstream media

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHXjjT-L1K4]YouTube - Lisbon Treaty- Ahern meets the CFR (1 of 3)[/ame]

[stanley]

Bertie would not be fit to lace the boots of these lads, why would they need a disgraced car counter to buy an Irish bank, indeed why would they want an Irish bank there are loads about going cheap, Bertie is as usual flying kites about his intl status, stick him in the Joy and shut him up permanent.

[Mr Crowley]

Bank of Ireland is eyed by U.S. private equity for a takeover
By Simon English
Last updated at 2:25 PM on 21st November 2008
Ireland's second-biggest bank could be on the receiving end of a takeover bid from a seemingly unlikely source - U.S. private-equity houses.

Bank of Ireland today confirmed a report in the Irish Times that it has had 'unsolicited approaches from a number of parties' who want to make a major investment.

This seems to be JC Flowers and Carlyle Group, perhaps with some help from KKR, who together are looking at paying up to £2.5billion for a 40 per cent stake.

Takeover talk: 'Unsolicited approaches' have been made by numerous parties.
Unlike UK rivals, so far Ireland banks have not been forced by the credit crunch into mergers.

The Irish government was one of the first to respond to the crisis by guaranteeing bank liabilities of 440billion euros (£370billion), a move that practically forced other authorities in Europe to follow suit.

Reports suggest the investors want to take control of Bank of Ireland and merge it with smaller rival Irish Life & Permanent.

The arrival of private-equity houses onto the banking scene is sure to cause controversy, given their image as shortterm investors looking for quick profits.

Bank of Ireland shares were up 20 per cent on the news to 1.24 euro, though a company spokesman insisted 'no decision' had yet been made on a deal.

But consolidation among Irish banks seems inevitable. IL&P is said to be looking to take over Ireland's EBS building society as it seeks safety through size.

Irish finance minister Brian Lenihan said yesterday he was talking to the banks about reforms that would improve credit supply to shore up the economy. He did not comment on suggestions that a bank recapitalisation plan is imminent.

Bank of Ireland, a commercial rather than a central bank despite its name, has been around since 1783.

It is second only to Allied Irish Bank in size, though it has faced questions lately from ratings agencies about its strength.

A combined Bank of Ireland and IL&P would have 50 per cent of the country's life insurance market and 40,000 of the mortgage market.
Bank of Ireland is eyed by U.S. private equity for a takeover | Mail Online

The Carlyle Group LLC - Independent.ie

What is the Carlyle Group?
Friday, 28 November 2008
The private global investment firm Carlyle Group is part of the Mallabraca consortium seeking to buy a majority stake in Bank of Ireland, the country's oldest bank.

With the Government concerned with the influence of US defence contractor Declan Ganley, the potential presence of the Carlyle Group, also a US defence contractor, is giving some pause for this multibillion euro deal.

Labour TD Sean Sherlock stressed in the Dáil this week that the Government should be 'very careful' about who it does business with.

He cited the Carlyle Group's past relationship with the bin Laden family which invested in the firm until September 2001 when they had to liquidate their assets following Osama bin Laden's attack on the US (right).

Carlyle is also connected with both George Bushes.

Shortly after his presidency, George HW Bush became a Senior Advisor for Carlyle's Asia Advisory Board. In 2002, the Washington Post reported: 'Saudis close to Prince Sultan, the Saudi defence minister... ...were encouraged to put money into Carlyle as a favor to the elder Bush.'

Current US President George W Bush served on the board of CaterAir, which was owned by the Carlyle Group. According to a 1991 New York Times article, the director of the 1988 Republican Convention and Senior Advisor to Carlyle, suggested to the firm that the president's eldest son would 'be a positive addition to Caterair's board.'

Former US Secretary of State James Baker was a Senior Counsellor at Carlyle from 1993 and former British Prime Minister John Major (left) served as Carlyle's European Chairman between 2001-2004.

Olivier Sarkozy was hired by Carlyle earlier this year to head up its global financial services division. He is the half-brother of French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

Booz Allen Hamilton

Earlier this year, Carlyle purchased the US defence contractor Booz Allen Hamilton, taking control of a good share of US intelligence operations.

Booz Allen was investigated by a European Union panel in 2006 for its role in SWIFT, a surveillance programme the panel concluded may violate European law.

Tim Shorrock, author of the new book Spies for Hire: The Secret World of Intelligence Outsourcing, estimates that of the $50bn US intelligence budget, 70% goes to private contractors like Carlyle and Booz Allen Hamilton.

'Making functions like the gathering of intelligence into profit centers is a remarkably dangerous thing to do,' he adds.

Former Booz Allen Hamilton vice president Michael McConnell is currently the US Director of National Intelligence.

For more on Carlyle Group:

Carlyle Group official website

Footage from 'Fahrenheit 9/11' documentary

[ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/House-Bush-Saud-Relationship-Dynasties/dp/1903933897"]Craig Unger's book 'House of Bush, House of Saud'[/ame]

RTÉ News: What is the Carlyle Group?


U.S. Carlyle Group Banking Coup Helped By Irish ‘Leaders’ *
Wise Up Journal
21.11.2008
By Gabriel O’Hara

It has been reported by Irish media that “major shareholders in Irish banks are preparing to revolt”. The Carlyle group, whose prominent political figures include former US president George HW Bush and former British prime minister John Major, are set to takeover Irish banks that will eventually be fully underwritten by the Government’s €440 billion guarantee approved bill, but the fiance minster has not bailed out or nationalised any banks yet. The Carlyle group are admired by financial modules world wide for the ways it has exploited its political contacts. Goodbody Stockbrokers informs us ‘At a minimum, there is extensive work going on behind the scenes.’ Read how Brian Cowen and the Irish finance minster’s actions are about work in favour for foreign investors to reap massive guaranteed profits with no risk, Irish taxpayers taking the full blow.

Irish Times
21.11.2008

“The Carlyle Group, based in Washington DC, is one of the largest private equity firms in the world. It has more than $91 billion (€72.6 billion) under management and 64 investment funds in four areas - buy-outs, growth capital, real estate and leveraged finance. Prominent political figures, including former US president George HW Bush and former British prime minister John Major, have held senior positions in the Carlyle Group.”

Irish Independent
20.11.2008

“Major shareholders in Irish banks are preparing to revolt if the Government lines up private equity investors to help recapitalise lenders without allowing existing shareholders to participate.

“It emerged yesteday that US-based Carlyle is among private equity houses who have been sounding out banks and the Government about possible co-investment with the State into the beleaguered sector.

“While sources told the Irish Independent earlier this week that the Government was finding it hard to weed out serious interested foreign investors from ‘tyre-kickers’,”

Epoch Times
20.11.2008

“A finance ministry spokesman said ‘informal approaches’ had been made by a number of investors without giving further details.

“The Irish Independent newspaper reported, without citing sources, that Carlyle Group was looking into an investment. The private equity group was not available for comment.”

The Irish Independent’s Carlyle Group source

Carlyle.com
12.02.2007

“Sydney, Australia - An investment consortium (’the Consortium’) comprising Independent News & Media PLC (’INM’), Providence Equity Partners (’Providence’) and The Carlyle Group (’Carlyle’) notes the announcement issued today by APN News & Media Ltd (’APN’) confirms that it has reached agreement with APN on a proposal to acquire all of the issued share capital of APN by way of a Scheme of Arrangement.”

Wikipedia

“Independent News & Media plc (INM) is a media organisation based in Dublin, Ireland with interests in 22 countries on 4 continents[1]worldwide. The company owns over 200 print titles, more than 130 radio stations, over 100 commercial websites and many billboard locations, and is a leading press player in five countries[1]. The INM group of companies has been dominated by Tony O’Reilly, today CEO, and his family (one of his sons is COO and two others are non-executive directors), since 1973.

“There have been controversies about the extent of the company’s media holdings in Ireland, its influence on politics, the role and cost of its dominant personality, [….] and its cost-cutting ‘yellow pack journalism’ management tactics, as well as aggressive accounting techniques

“Concern has also been expressed about INM’s dominant role in the Irish press sector, its overall media power, its influence on politics, and the quality of its journalism

“The group owns a number of national newspapers in Ireland: the Evening Herald, Irish Independent,[….]”

The Guardian

“For 14 years now, with almost no publicity, the company has been signing up an impressive list of former politicians - including the first President Bush and his secretary of state, James Baker; John Major; one-time World Bank treasurer Afsaneh Masheyekhi and several south-east Asian powerbrokers - and using their contacts and influence to promote the group. Among the companies Carlyle owns are those which make equipment, vehicles and munitions for the US military, and its celebrity employees have long served an ingenious dual purpose, helping encourage investments from the very wealthy while also smoothing the path for Carlyle’s defence firms.

“‘It should be a deep cause for concern that a closely held company like Carlyle can simultaneously have directors and advisers that are doing business and making money and also advising the president of the United States,’ says Peter Eisner, managing director of the Center for Public Integrity,

“‘The problem comes when private business and public policy blend together. What hat is former president Bush wearing when he tells Crown Prince Abdullah not to worry about US policy in the Middle East? What hat does he use when he deals with South Korea, and causes policy changes there? Or when James Baker helps argue the presidential election in the younger Bush’s favour? It’s a kitchen-cabinet situation, and the informality involved is precisely a mark of Carlyle’s success.’”

Epoch Times

“Ireland was one of the first countries to respond to the credit crisis with a guarantee for bank liabilities worth some 440 billion euros ($550 billion), but it has not bailed out or nationalised any banks, and they have not raised equity themselves.

“Public television RTE cited unnamed participants in the bank talks as saying the government believed consolidation could be the best solution, and that it could lead to an overhaul of the sector, which would eventually leave only two large players.

“A finance ministry spokesman declined to comment on the RTE report.”

Could the Irish finance minster and Brian Cowen been holding off on saving the banks with Irish people’s money until the bank shares have collapsed to cut-rate prices (screwing shareholders) allowing the Irish banks to be bought up on the cheap by influential financial elites? Bank of Ireland’s shares have dropped below €1 since the €440 billion government guarantee was passed but not issued (which would rob the public in any case). Don’t underestimate the lack of integrity at the top. The Irish government have sold out the people many times… allowing Shell to reap our natural gas without paying any percentage comes to mind. This is how government buddies with financial elites ripoff the people who have to pay with their tax money received from labour. This game has been going on for a long time, it is not capitalism, it is hyper socialist-monopolism and modern disguised partial slavery.

Irish Independent

“‘Why haven’t existing shareholders been asked about whether we would like to invest? We’re they guys who have taken the bath on our investment in the banks,’ said one senior fund manager. Another Dublin-based asset manager said: ‘In the scenario where equity is being raised, existing investors should be given an opportunity to participate. They have taken all the pain. They also have rights. A capital raising must put to an EGM vote.’

“Leading fund managers said, however, that they would not be willing to participate in a rights issue — even at a severely discounted price — if it were not fully underwritten by the Government.

“‘There’s no doubt that if taxpayers are taking a risk, they should be given a decent coupon and are also perfectly entitled to any uplift in the banks’ values as well.’

“He [Brian Cowen] said a report by accountants PricewaterhouseCoopers, which has carried out a forensic audit of the banks,

“However, the Taoiseach conceded that ‘international expectations in relation to capital levels in the banking sector have altered’.

“‘At a minimum, there is extensive work going on behind the scenes,’ said Goodbody Stockbrokers analyst Eamonn Hughes.”

The new money masters of Ireland?

The Guardian

“But what sets Carlyle apart is the way it has exploited its political contacts. When Carlucci arrived there in 1989, he brought with him a phalanx of former subordinates from the CIA and the Pentagon, and an awareness of the scale of business a company like Carlyle could do in the corridors and steak-houses of Washington. […], and now claims to be the largest private equity firm in the world. Success brought more investors, including the international financier George Soros and, in 1995, the wealthy Saudi Binladin family,

“since the start of the ‘war on terrorism’, the firm - has taken on an added significance. Carlyle has become the thread which indirectly links American military policy in Afghanistan to the personal financial fortunes of its celebrity employees, not least the current president’s father. And, until earlier this month, Carlyle provided another curious link to the Afghan crisis: among the firm’s multi-million-dollar investors were members of the family of Osama bin Laden.

“Last year, George Bush Sr and John Major travelled to Riyadh to talk with senior Saudi businessmen. In September 2000, Carlyle hired speakers including Colin Powell and AOL Time Warner chair Steve Case to address an extravagant party at Washington’s Monarch Hotel.

“Carlyle partners, who include Baker and the firm’s chairman, Frank Carlucci - Ronald Reagan’s defence secretary and a former deputy director of the CIA - As in many areas of its work, though, Carlyle is not obliged to reveal the details, and chooses not to.

“‘They are big, and they are quiet,’ says David Mulholland, business editor of Jane’s Defence Weekly. ‘But they’re not easy to get information out of, [but] United Defense are going to do well [in the current conflict].’ United also owns Bofors, a Swedish munitions manufacturer.”
Wise Up Journal - U.S. Carlyle Group Banking Coup Helped By Irish ‘Leaders’ *

Say hello to your new overlords.
Treason of unparelleled proportions and nobody will do a damn thing, just like when Ahern sold the nation's oil and gas reserves out from under it. The fact that this thread is getting so little attention is unreal.

[VoxII]

The fact that this thread is getting so little attention is unreal.

bump! It stunning.