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    Eamon Gilmore's Leadership of Labour?

    The leader of the Labour Party Eamon Gilmore is a tame pussy cat compared with the fury of Rabbite who drove many stakes into the heart of beleagured Bertie, but will he improve Labour's chances at the next election and take us away from disasterous right-wing policies, or does he favour the right supporting the bank bailouts as he has done?

    What kind of Labour Party do we have?

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    Not a Labour supporter, but he's impressed me so far. I think he's OK actually.

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    Gilmore could walk up and down O'Connell St all day long and I doubt if any more than a handful of people passing by would have a clue who he is....

    A political non entity in the public mind I'm afraid.
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    Supporting the Banks against the Hedge Funds was probably the boldest and most effective thing Fianna Fail did in the last ten years.

    If the Government hadn't acted in the way they did the Hedge Funds would have taken down the entire Irish Banking System within days - and with it the Irish Economy.

    It was a brilliant move that cost the Irish Taxpayer nothing, unlike the codology that other Countries have gotten bogged down in whereby they pump taxpayers money into the pockets of the Hedge Funds on a weekly basis.

    Shame on Labour for not supporting it, and for Grandstanding to boot.


    As for Gilmore: If he was to start developing some meaningful policies, and give up the idiocy of "we're the opposition, we're not supposed to come up with workable alternatives", then maybe Labour might be able to turn the corner and become credible again.

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    I Like Gilmore as Labour leader.
    More considered and incisive than Pat.
    Rurai Quinn was a fine leader as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Shame on Labour for not supporting it, and for Grandstanding to boot.


    As for Gilmore: If he was to start developing some meaningful policies, and give up the idiocy of "we're the opposition, we're not supposed to come up with workable alternatives", then maybe Labour might be able to turn the corner and become credible again.
    Whatever its merits, why should Labour be ashamed for not supporting it? Oppositions are there to oppose, they're not being paid to govern.

    Sure, they have to look credible and constructive for electoral reasons, but that's their own problem, not the country's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    Gilmore could walk up and down O'Connell St all day long and I doubt if any more than a handful of people passing by would have a clue who he is....

    A political non entity in the public mind I'm afraid.
    I agree. He needs to up his profile, a bit like Mary Harney. The minister for health could waddle down any street in Ireland and be instantly recognised by every OAP and cancer patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Supporting the Banks against the Hedge Funds was probably the boldest and most effective thing Fianna Fail did in the last ten years.

    If the Government hadn't acted in the way they did the Hedge Funds would have taken down the entire Irish Banking System within days - and with it the Irish Economy.

    It was a brilliant move that cost the Irish Taxpayer nothing, unlike the codology that other Countries have gotten bogged down in whereby they pump taxpayers money into the pockets of the Hedge Funds on a weekly basis.

    Shame on Labour for not supporting it, and for Grandstanding to boot.


    As for Gilmore: If he was to start developing some meaningful policies, and give up the idiocy of "we're the opposition, we're not supposed to come up with workable alternatives", then maybe Labour might be able to turn the corner and become credible again.

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    Its nonsense to say that it has cost us nothing to accept a 400 billion euro liability.

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    I think he is a cynical opportunist. That would not worry me but cynical opportunists have a tendency to embrace coalition with FF.

    We could see an election where FF loose ten seats, FG gains ten seats and Labour decides to prop FF up for another 5 years.

    Gimore has no intention of offering the country a clear alternative they way Rabitte did, and as such Labour deserve to take a hammering.

    People underestimated Rabittes achievement in holding what it has in a party who last influs of talent came 15 years ago. The most radical change of direction embarked on by the labour party recently was Howlin shaving his beard off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Supporting the Banks against the Hedge Funds was probably the boldest and most effective thing Fianna Fail did in the last ten years.

    If the Government hadn't acted in the way they did the Hedge Funds would have taken down the entire Irish Banking System within days - and with it the Irish Economy.

    It was a brilliant move that cost the Irish Taxpayer nothing, unlike the codology that other Countries have gotten bogged down in whereby they pump taxpayers money into the pockets of the Hedge Funds on a weekly basis.

    Shame on Labour for not supporting it, and for Grandstanding to boot.


    As for Gilmore: If he was to start developing some meaningful policies, and give up the idiocy of "we're the opposition, we're not supposed to come up with workable alternatives", then maybe Labour might be able to turn the corner and become credible again.

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    Wrong on two counts.

    Firstly, It will cost the Irish state as it will disimprove our credit rating meaning borrowing will cost more.

    Secondly, one of them is going to be HBOSed. It's a matter of time IMO.

    I agree with the opening poster though. These is times for an intellect. Gilmore is no fool but Rabbitte would wipe the floor with most people most of the time. Gilmore tends to be full of hot air.
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