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    Cervical Cancer Cut

    This has to be the most disgusting cut of all.

    For savings of ten million Harney is delaying the roll out of cervical cancer vaccines to young girls.

    And to announce the cut on the day of the us elections to minimise the backlash is just really sickening.

    Please give me any election to throw this disgusting crowd out !!!

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    And launch the review into xrays and ct scans in the north east on the Us election day!

    Hide the bad news on a busy day!

    This Minister has got form.She signed the statuatory instrument for the controversial new children's hospital at the mater the day of the media moratorium (day before the election) so that couldn't be discussed)
    She could teach Dick Roche a thing or two!
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    Maybe Harney did a favour. In that the HPV Vaccine might not be effective.

    Dr. James Howenstine -- Human Papilloma Virus Vaccine Fraud

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr B View Post
    Maybe Harney did a favour. In that the HPV Vaccine might not be effective.

    Dr. James Howenstine -- Human Papilloma Virus Vaccine Fraud

    How it the vaccine turns out is not the point - its the intention of the Minister to scale back on such an important piece of medical care to young girls. Really, is there no other way they could have saved 10 million? What a miserly cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markeys View Post
    How it the vaccine turns out is not the point - its the intention of the Minister to scale back on such an important piece of medical care to young girls. Really, is there no other way they could have saved 10 million? What a miserly cut.
    Yes it is. The point is giving people vaccines or any form of treatment which don't work or have potential side effects is disastrous.

    Thalidomide was one such great thing but its consequences were realised way too late.

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    If she had any doubt about the vaccine, she should have said she was going to wait for 5 years to see if clinical trials on outcomes supported the use of the date. However, she chose not to use this argument.

    Her policy default when faced with a choice between cutting front line service or overhead is to always cut the front line service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe View Post
    Thalidomide was one such great thing but its consequences were realised way too late.
    Agreed, but this vaccine has been tested in the UK and elsewhere so the comparison is not valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe View Post
    Yes it is. The point is giving people vaccines or any form of treatment which don't work or have potential side effects is disastrous.

    Thalidomide was one such great thing but its consequences were realised way too late.
    It may be important in the future. But thats not what the Minister said as the reason for the cut.

    The Minister cancelled the vaccine due to 'budgetary pressures' If she had cancelled the vaccines due to doubts about its side effects, then fair game. Who would dispute that? But this move displays a willingness to cut important front line services before any move is made to tackle inefficience in the HSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aindriu View Post
    Agreed, but this vaccine has been tested in the UK and elsewhere so the comparison is not valid.
    Incorrect as the testing would need to go on for 20 years to prove that it worked properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markeys View Post
    It may be important in the future. But thats not what the Minister said as the reason for the cut.

    The Minister cancelled the vaccine due to 'budgetary pressures' If she had cancelled the vaccines due to doubts about its side effects, then fair game. Who would dispute that? But this move displays a willingness to cut important front line services before any move is made to tackle inefficience in the HSE.
    It may be more important not to vaccinate if side effects kill more than potentially they could save.

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