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    Re: Sunday Business Post REDC Poll 21/9/2008

    Quote Originally Posted by foxrockman
    I remember before the last General election I attended a meeting when I was a member of FG and was told that our time has come and we would be in Government after the election , there was joyous celebrations after this was said .FG are living in a dream world .
    Sounds like you're a bit of a dreamer yourself.
    There was an interesting interview with Enda Kenny on TV3 today - he said the poll is nice but meaningless. When pushed, he said he would not favour any schemes to stabilise house prices such as what Parlon wants. When asked about 1st time buyers he said let the developers cut their prices if they want to shift their property. Maybe we will get away from consensus.
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    Re: Sunday Business Post REDC Poll 21/9/2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxrockman
    I remember before the last General election I attended a meeting when I was a member of FG and was told that our time has come and we would be in Government after the election , there was joyous celebrations after this was said .FG are living in a dream world .
    Sounds like you're a bit of a dreamer yourself.
    There was an interesting interview with Enda Kenny on TV3 today - he said the poll is nice but meaningless. When pushed, he said he would not favour any schemes to stabilise house prices such as what Parlon wants. When asked about 1st time buyers he said let the developers cut their prices if they want to shift their property. Maybe we will get away from consensus.
    Very good point about FTB. Developers were screwing FTBs on one hand, and then forcing the govt to give them an extra lift on the other. Now that the worm has turned, the developers should start dropping prices. Cash is king.
    The smart ones will drop early and get the cash in and limit their losses. The dumb ones will hold on and on....

    Right about the poll. Meaningless but nice.

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    Re: Sunday Business Post REDC Poll 21/9/2008

    I think its amazing that how stupid 6% of the nation can still support FF.
    It is granted that 30% of people will vote for them no matter what they do due to historical and family reasons.
    Any other country would decimate a government for handling an economy so poorly.

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    Re: Sunday Business Post REDC Poll 21/9/2008

    Quote Originally Posted by smitchy2
    I think its amazing that how stupid 6% of the nation can still support FF.
    It is granted that 30% of people will vote for them no matter what they do due to historical and family reasons.
    Any other country would decimate a government for handling an economy so poorly.
    I never got that. I know lots of really smart people who give FF nearly unconditional support. It's a bit odd.
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    Re: Sunday Business Post REDC Poll 21/9/2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by turdsl
    Enda could be in power if he gave S.F. two junior ministeries on the night of the results, Adams was not in a position to be to gready, instead Kenny was talking to Harney a week after the election,a fact she threw at him during the health debate,
    O Malley swallowed his pride to go in with Haughey.Kenny may be good and honest but he is not ruthless enough for government
    Without breaking pre-election promises, FG could not coalesce with SF in 2007.
    If they can find a way to get things done with the DUP up North all parties will talk to them after GE 2010.

    I know all politicians want to be in power, even when the bottom is dropping out of the economy.
    It is still consoling to watch Biffo's slump coalition squirm.
    Remember that Cowen is one year behind Brown in the political cycle and Brown's economic difficulties are as nothing compared to ours where Cowen based all our government revenues on a property bubble.


    This poll has FG up one on their last local electuion result, and up in termns of their last GE result, that is evidence of an upward curve which is positive. The demise of the PDs will help FG as I think that PD candidates who run under the FF banner at the next election will alienate the not insignifiacant portion iof their population which are anypne but FF.
    aS TO COALESCING WITH sf, THAT COULD COST fg A WHOLE BUNCH OF VOTES AMONG THEIR TRADITIONAL SUPPORTERS
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    Re: Sunday Business Post REDC Poll 21/9/2008

    Quote Originally Posted by foxrockman
    I remember before the last General election I attended a meeting when I was a member of FG and was told that our time has come and we would be in Government after the election , there was joyous celebrations after this was said .FG are living in a dream world .
    No there weren't. You were never a member of FG, and you were never at any such meeting. No-one in politics "celebrates joyously" BEFORE an election. You're making it up.
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    Re: Sunday Business Post REDC Poll 21/9/2008

    Significant poll increase for FG coming on the start of a new Parliamentary Term.

    Good for Parl Party morale if nothing else.

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    Re: Sunday Business Post REDC Poll 21/9/2008

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    There are [color=#FF0000]two[/color] many bloody polls and as Haughey used to say "the only poll that counts is the one on Election day". We are four years out from an election. If the recession lasts well into 2010 and people are still sitting on negative equity(2011) then FF will get hammered in an election 2011/2012.However if we learned any lesson from the last election that's the old chestnut of FF declining in an election is gone. The election is crucial itself and ,thus these polls are political porno-you might get excited, but you don't know yet if you'll get laid!
    There are [color=#FF0000]too[/color] many people on p.ie who cannot spell.
    Don't be so sure that we wont have an election in late 2009, early 2010.
    Cowen is knackered already.

    His government will crumble as the impact of his budgetary financial mismanagement as Finance Minister comes home to roost.
    Just think forward to what things will be like in the winer of 2009-2010.
    I hate bad grammar too, but the "winer" of 2009-2010?

    LOL. I once got an email from a work colleague asking if "you's" could meet with a client as she had to leave early.
    Lynn Truss eat your heart out - surely you told him the correct spelling of the vernacular version of the 2nd person plural is "youse".

    At least I know that the correct spelling is "winter" not my typo of "winer".
    The sad thing is that so many people on p.ie correctly spell the wrong word, confusing for instance "two" with "too".

    P.S. why do we not have a spell checker on p.ie?
    No worries dude, I know it was just a simple typo.

    So much bad grammar around that it is indeed funny. I once read and article by one of the BBC newsreaders (silver haired guy, can't remember his name) who came from a mining family in the North of England and he was intent on getting into journalism in London. He left school at 16 but said that the one thing that differentiated him from other potential recruits was his strict observence of grammar.
    Correcting each other's grammer.

    Is this what Blueshirts do for fun.

    Ha!
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