Cowen's been very low key for a long while meanwhile their has been nothing but bad news and still FF are at 36%!
This time 5 years ago we were at around 30-33%. This is a desparate opinion poll for Labour. If Gilmore has a bad locals will he go?
Still govt and supporters at around 50% in the polls, that is very impressive.
Liquidate labour, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, liquidate real estate.
Not bad for Fine Gael, they appear to be creeping up again. By and large much the same. No ground breaking move for Labour. The Shinners have obviously peaked. FF wont be very concerned with this poll???????????
Yep, pretty much. I dont think anyone should pay these mid-term polls much attention unless they show major shifts. But to be at 36% during a recession and when the new Taoiseach has done little to catch the public attention is a pretty healthy position for FF to be inOriginally Posted by Defeated Romanticist
[quote=wysiwyg]Statistical error range... damn all change.. but hey, if it makes you feel good[/quote:nxyzjkcl]Down 4 isn't "damn-all change". Up 3 isn't "damn-all change".So damn all change... but wait till we hear the spin all evening... Labour seems a bit low and FG seem a bit high... nothing else really
The last poll had a 15-point gap between FF and FG. This poll has an 8-point gap. Ergo FG have taken some support from FF since the last poll.
No, one point up on the last locals. But again, the point is the trend.Great result for FG.. just one point down on last local elections
I think anyone who read your first post would assume "damn all change" referred to the previous poll. Are you now saying you were referring to the 2004 locals? Don't think anyone's buying that.so you'll just about hold your own... i.e. damn all change
"Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)
The majority cannot therefore be the elite.
How many polls before 2002 and 2007 showed FG "up"
None of this changes your place in permanent opposition lads..
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The effect of the recession on people's lives is only starting to kick in, and has a lot more kicking to go. Furthermore, governments tend to improve support during the summer recess, as they have much more control of their media exposure, while opposition parties don't have the oxygen of the Dail sitting to get their stories into the news. Also, what's gonna be a tough budget hasn't even happened yet. FF will fall further.Yep, pretty much. I dont think anyone should pay these mid-term polls much attention unless they show major shifts. But to be at 36% during a recession and when the new Taoiseach has done little to catch the public attention is a pretty healthy position for FF to be in
"Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)
The majority cannot therefore be the elite.
Is there a point in that post..... anywhere?
"Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)
The majority cannot therefore be the elite.
[quote=hiding behind a poster]The effect of the recession on people's lives is only starting to kick in, and has a lot more kicking to go. Furthermore, governments tend to improve support during the summer recess, as they have much more control of their media exposure, while opposition parties don't have the oxygen of the Dail sitting to get their stories into the news. Also, what's gonna be a tough budget hasn't even happened yet. FF will fall further.[/quote:2x607qs1]Yep, pretty much. I dont think anyone should pay these mid-term polls much attention unless they show major shifts. But to be at 36% during a recession and when the new Taoiseach has done little to catch the public attention is a pretty healthy position for FF to be in
I have never heard so much nonsense in a long time , do you know anything about politics ?? stop fooling yourself this poll is a disaster for FG only up 3 . The PDs who are finished are up 1 and you want to believe that the second largest party is doing well when they rise 3 in a recession . Cop on and start facing reality .
FG should be up at least 7 points min if the people had any faith in it's leadership they would be up 11 .
Maybe they will. But big deal. FF have been a lot lower in the past, and have come back up at election time. They will improve before the next election too, as all incumbents do. FG would want to be pretty much neck-and-neck with FF (at a guess) at this point to be confident of taking power next time. The polls in the UK indicate change of government is likely in that country. This poll suggests no such change here
[quote=foxrockman]The effect of the recession on people's lives is only starting to kick in, and has a lot more kicking to go. Furthermore, governments tend to improve support during the summer recess, as they have much more control of their media exposure, while opposition parties don't have the oxygen of the Dail sitting to get their stories into the news. Also, what's gonna be a tough budget hasn't even happened yet. FF will fall further.Yep, pretty much. I dont think anyone should pay these mid-term polls much attention unless they show major shifts. But to be at 36% during a recession and when the new Taoiseach has done little to catch the public attention is a pretty healthy position for FF to be in
I have never heard so much nonsense in a long time , do you know anything about politics ?? stop fooling yourself this poll is a disaster for FG only up 3 . The PDs who are finished are up 1 and you want to believe that the second largest party is doing well when they rise 3 in a recession . Cop on and start facing reality .
FG should be up at least 7 points min if the people had any faith in it's leadership they would be up 11 .[/quote:373goc2m]
Cnosdiering there's what abouit 30% of people who would vote FF even if Biffo punched a baby in Mass, any inroads are welcome. Judging by your posts so far I think it's rich for you to question people's knowledge of politics
We need to radically change every system that has enabled the wholesale destruction of the Irish landscape, rural and urban. There is no time for incremental step by step measures. The systems have failed utterly and the only hope for a real recovery requires the rule book to be torn up completely.
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