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    zakalwe zakalwe is offline

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    Re: Stop our poorest pensioners freezing to death this winter

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    The Carbon Levy will be Revenue Neutral, and the money taken in from Fossil Fuel users will be used to reduce demand, or develop non polluting alternatives.
    Is the carbon levy about to wing its way to us in the eagerly anticipated October Budget, or are they still procrastinating?? I also think they should raise the VRT on Band G vehicles to 10K a year... 2 grand is nothing to some of the Ross O' Carroll Kelly types I seem to have to share South Dublin's narrow roads with.

    Axles of eeeevil!!! Tax the phuckers. That should raise enough revenue to keep the old folks warm.... and before any gas guzzler fans start throwing brickbats and complaining about the needs of large families, there are plenty of seven seaters in bands E and F. There is NO reason for anyone to be driving anything on suburban roads that emits more than 200g Co2/km max.

    Redistribution...NOW. The laissez faire market capitalism no regulations stuff just serves to widen the great wealth divide. You'd have thought we'd have learnt that from the Great Famine.....but no.
    easy now girl. this is about pensioners not having enough money for heating and cooking warm meals, not your daily rant against ross o'carroll-kelly and his car. did he say he'd call but didn't? (ledge with a capital L!!!)
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    Re: Stop our poorest pensioners freezing to death this winter

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    So how many people froze to death in Ireland per year in last 20 years.

    Given that the Govt already provides fuel allowances then what then ?

    Should the govt spend taxpayers money on private dwellings with no chance of return ?
    The purpose of the government is supposed to be to look after it's people, not to make a return on investments you imbecile.
    It already does fool by paying fuel allowance to them or should the state just continue to pay and pay out with no recourse to whether it is justifiable or not.

    A poor pensioner living in a 100 year old house with 10 acres of land should get Govt assistance because her income doesn't support her assets ??
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    Re: Stop our poorest pensioners freezing to death this winter

    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe
    A poor pensioner living in a 100 year old house with 10 acres of land should get Govt assistance because her income doesn't support her assets ??
    A 'poor' pensioner living in a 100 year old house with 10 acres of land isn't poor

    S/He should realise their assets and buy somewhere they can afford to run.
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    odie1kanobe odie1kanobe is offline

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    Re: Stop our poorest pensioners freezing to death this winter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aindriu
    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe
    A poor pensioner living in a 100 year old house with 10 acres of land should get Govt assistance because her income doesn't support her assets ??
    A 'poor' pensioner living in a 100 year old house with 10 acres of land isn't poor

    S/He should realise their assets and buy somewhere they can afford to run.
    So you advocating the state sell her assets then ?
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    mountainyman mountainyman is offline

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    Re: Stop our poorest pensioners freezing to death this winter

    They spent their lives voting Fianna Fail. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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    Re: Stop our poorest pensioners freezing to death this winter

    Quote Originally Posted by Harpo
    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe
    So how many people froze to death in Ireland per year in last 20 years.

    Given that the Govt already provides fuel allowances then what then ?

    Should the govt spend taxpayers money on private dwellings with no chance of return ?
    The purpose of the government is supposed to be to look after it's people, not to make a return on investments you imbecile.
    No, the purpose of government is to look after some people at the expense of everybody else.
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    Re: Stop our poorest pensioners freezing to death this winter

    There seems to be an awful lot of nonsense in this thread and for once it's not from harpo who I actually agree with here (it won't last).
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    Re: Stop our poorest pensioners freezing to death this winter

    Fianna Fail runs a scheme for such aged people living in roomy houses and unable to afford heat them. Fianna Fail will donate a sum of money to a relative of the "aged aunt", usually to a niece. The sum of money will match the market sale valyue of the house. The niece then purchases the house in her own name with the Fianna Fail money and then allows the aged aunt to live in the house until she dies. The great thing about this scheme is that Fianna Fail will never actually ask to be repaid.

    <MOD> Stay on topic, there are plenty of other threads to rant about FF in</MOD>
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    Re: Stop our poorest pensioners freezing to death this winter

    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster
    There seems to be an awful lot of nonsense in this thread and for once it's not from harpo who I actually agree with here (it won't last).
    A bit of a shock, that. Isn't it? The shock will also pass.
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    Re: Stop our poorest pensioners freezing to death this winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster
    There seems to be an awful lot of nonsense in this thread and for once it's not from harpo who I actually agree with here (it won't last).
    A bit of a shock, that. Isn't it? The shock will also pass.
    Just head on over to the Ryanair thread, the world will be balanced once again.
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