Another Human Rights award for Mary Robinson

[The Earl of Desmond]

Former President awarded another human rights award - is it justified?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhqleyaueygb/

No offence but on what basis are the people who get these awards judged?

It is an award for people who have made outstanding contributions to defending human rights so why is Mary Robinson getting it - why does such an award exist even?

What contribution has she made given that horrific abuses of human rights are happening in Darfur everyday, in Zimbabwe and in China to name a few.

Are these awards just things wolley liberals, in safe and secure western countries, give each to make them feel less guilty while they turn a blind eye to other human rights abuses that to tackle would mean pain for western commericial interests and would require western people to actually alter the way we live?

I don't think anyone can doubt Mary Robinson's sincerity but I don't recall her standing up at the UN and criticising China or Sudan or the US etc for human rights abuses.

Should such comments by her be made in public or private? Which would be more effective?

[Respvblica]

She seems to lap them up. Isnt she the best!

I hate awards, especially when civic works are concerned. Real patriotism at a smaller level goes on everyday but as usual our feudalist tendancies return when the grandees of the world stage clap themselves on the back.

Am I being meanspirited?- no, but I feel that modesty is a greater virtue than ostentation.

[corelli]

Former President awarded another human rights award - is it justified?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhqleyaueygb/

No offence but on what basis are the people who get these awards judged?

It is an award for people who have made outstanding contributions to defending human rights so why is MAry Robinson getting it - why does such an award exist even?

What contribution has she made given that horrific abuses of human rights are happening in Darfur everyday, in Zimbabwe and in China to name a few.

Are these awards just things wolley liberals in safe and secure western countries give each to make them feel less guilty while they turn a blind eye to other human rights abuses that to tackle would mean ain for western commericial interest and would require western people to actually alter the way we live?

I don't think anyone can doubt MAry Robinson's sincerity but I don't recall her standing up at the UN and criticising China or Sudan or the US etc for human rights abuses.

Should such comments be made in public or private? Which would be more effective?

Whilst I am no fan of hers personally I think you will find that she was not reappointed to the post because the US etc etc were sick of her pointing out things like the issues above. It is common knowledge that she was pegged out as the US would not agree to her re-appointment. She was far to vocal for their liking.

Credit where it is due.

[Nagy]

What did she do exactly? Genuine question looking for genuine answer.

[NotDevsSon]

Former President awarded another human rights award - is it justified?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhqleyaueygb/

No offence but on what basis are the people who get these awards judged?

It is an award for people who have made outstanding contributions to defending human rights so why is MAry Robinson getting it - why does such an award exist even?

What contribution has she made given that horrific abuses of human rights are happening in Darfur everyday, in Zimbabwe and in China to name a few.

Are these awards just things wolley liberals in safe and secure western countries give each to make them feel less guilty while they turn a blind eye to other human rights abuses that to tackle would mean ain for western commericial interest and would require western people to actually alter the way we live?

I don't think anyone can doubt MAry Robinson's sincerity but I don't recall her standing up at the UN and criticising China or Sudan or the US etc for human rights abuses.

Then you are deaf. The Chinese went ballistic over her repeated criticisms of its human rights. Bush publicly criticised her for criticising the US human rights record. She has been campaigning on Darfur for three years. After a visit there she travelled to meet governments all over Europe and lobbied for EU action. She has also repeatedly criticised the situation in Zimbabwe. Far from being too silent, the Americans and the Chinese in particular have condemned her for criticising them.

[The Earl of Desmond]

Whilst I am no fan of hers personally I think you will find that she was not reappointed to the post because the US etc etc were sick of her pointing out things like the issues above. It is common knowledge that she was pegged out as the US would not agree to her re-appointment. She was far to vocal for their liking.

Credit where it is due.

Hmm but what has she achieved that has improved human rights to justify such an award? Is there any human rights abuse she raised that has now stopped or is less? I don't think so - and it's not jsut her it's all those people who are called 'human rights' fighters - as if the rest of us fight against human rights.

I mean how does she reconcile her human rights work and then flying first class all over the world and her top class NY home and her corporate world lifestyle - isn't she being a bit of a hypocrite?

I don't remember ever hearing her making public speeches criticising the US etc - I can believe that's why she wasn't reappointed but I'm jsut curious as to what basis an award can be justified - not to her in particular but in general - she just happened to get this award this year.

[Clanrickard]

Whilst I am no fan of hers personally I think you will find that she was not reappointed to the post because the US etc etc were sick of her pointing out things like the issues above. It is common knowledge that she was pegged out as the US would not agree to her re-appointment. She was far to vocal for their liking.

Credit where it is due.

Hmm but what has she achieved that has improved human rights to justify such an award? Is there any human rights abuse she raised that has now stopped or is less? I don't think so - and it's not jsut her it's all those people who are called 'human rights' fighters - as if the rest of us fight against human rights.

I mean how does she reconcile her human rights work and then flying first class all over the world and her top class NY home and her corporate world lifestyle - isn't she being a bit of a hypocrite?

I don't remember ever hearing her making public speeches criticising the US etc - I can believe that's why she wasn't reappointed but I'm jsut curious as to what basis an award can be justified - not to her in particular but in general - she just happened to get this award this year.

She's a hypocrite. A career feminist when it suits, She'll criticise the US, easy target which will inratiate her with the international left and Zimbabawe, another easy target. She would never criticise Iran or Saudi Arabia and is a typical middlw of the road mutliculturalist. Muslims, Africans and Asians get a pass for their "culture" while israel and western governments don't. In fact it is thanks to her the Cairo Declaration has achieved a kind of parity with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. She did more to undermine the Declaration than Jonh Bolton and that is saying something. I have never heard this woman utter anything but the blandest of pc nonsense.

[The Earl of Desmond]

Former President awarded another human rights award - is it justified?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhqleyaueygb/

No offence but on what basis are the people who get these awards judged?

It is an award for people who have made outstanding contributions to defending human rights so why is MAry Robinson getting it - why does such an award exist even?

What contribution has she made given that horrific abuses of human rights are happening in Darfur everyday, in Zimbabwe and in China to name a few.

Are these awards just things wolley liberals in safe and secure western countries give each to make them feel less guilty while they turn a blind eye to other human rights abuses that to tackle would mean ain for western commericial interest and would require western people to actually alter the way we live?

I don't think anyone can doubt MAry Robinson's sincerity but I don't recall her standing up at the UN and criticising China or Sudan or the US etc for human rights abuses.

Then you are deaf. The Chinese went ballistic over her repeated criticisms of its human rights. Bush publicly criticised her for criticising the US human rights record. She has been campaigning on Darfur for three years. After a visit there she travelled to meet governments all over Europe and lobbied for EU action. She has also repeatedly criticised the situation in Zimbabwe. Far from being too silent, the Americans and the Chinese in particular have condemned her for criticising them.

Did she?

It doesn't seem to have made any difference then so how can it be justified to give her the Prix des Generations award for 'outstanding' contribution to future generations? Having heated meetings in plush UN offices and then going back to her million dollar office and her 5th avenue penthouse is hardly cutting edge human rights fighting.

[corelli]

Whilst I am no fan of hers personally I think you will find that she was not reappointed to the post because the US etc etc were sick of her pointing out things like the issues above. It is common knowledge that she was pegged out as the US would not agree to her re-appointment. She was far to vocal for their liking.

Credit where it is due.

Hmm but what has she achieved that has improved human rights to justify such an award? Is there any human rights abuse she raised that has now stopped or is less? I don't think so - and it's not jsut her it's all those people who are called 'human rights' fighters - as if the rest of us fight against human rights.

I mean how does she reconcile her human rights work and then flying first class all over the world and her top class NY home and her corporate world lifestyle - isn't she being a bit of a hypocrite?

I don't remember ever hearing her making public speeches criticising the US etc - I can believe that's why she wasn't reappointed but I'm jsut curious as to what basis an award can be justified - not to her in particular but in general - she just happened to get this award this year.

You are making the usual asumption that all people who support human rights for some reason cannot be wealthy. It is exactly the opposite. Only the wealthy can afford to be concerned about human rights. Other people have enough to deal with.

[Nagy]

Whilst I am no fan of hers personally I think you will find that she was not reappointed to the post because the US etc etc were sick of her pointing out things like the issues above. It is common knowledge that she was pegged out as the US would not agree to her re-appointment. She was far to vocal for their liking.

Credit where it is due.

Hmm but what has she achieved that has improved human rights to justify such an award? Is there any human rights abuse she raised that has now stopped or is less? I don't think so - and it's not jsut her it's all those people who are called 'human rights' fighters - as if the rest of us fight against human rights.

I mean how does she reconcile her human rights work and then flying first class all over the world and her top class NY home and her corporate world lifestyle - isn't she being a bit of a hypocrite?

I don't remember ever hearing her making public speeches criticising the US etc - I can believe that's why she wasn't reappointed but I'm jsut curious as to what basis an award can be justified - not to her in particular but in general - she just happened to get this award this year.

She's a hypocrite. A career feminist when it suits, She'll criticise the US, easy target which will inratiate her with the international left and Zimbabawe, another easy target. She would never criticise Iran or Saudi Arabia and is a typical middlw of the road mutliculturalist. Muslims, Africans and Asians get a pass for their "culture" while israel and western governments don't. In fact it is thanks to her the Cairo Declaration has achieved a kind of parity with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. She did more to undermine the Declaration than Jonh Bolton and that is saying something. I have never heard this woman utter anything but the blandest of pc nonsense.

I thought you neo-cons loved Suadi Arabia?