Originally Posted by L'Chaim

Well Israel were probably just glad to get rid of him. Would he get into the US with his history? I doubt it very much. How many of those Palestinian militants did the Vatican take in? Don't even bother to check, I bet it was none. Seems like Ireland got the ************************ty end of that stick

I think you know that you are not addressing the reality of the situation and that your original cry of ‘how could Ireland let this guy in’ has been comprehensively answered. He was taken in as part of a very public process six years ago, so his presence in the country is hardly a surprise.

Apart from Ireland, Spain, Italy, Greece, Belgium and Portugal all took some of them in. So, again, you have to make a coherent case that the EU in general and these countries in particular are in some way deficient from having negotiated an agreement with international support which includes Israel. Going forward, are you suggesting we should ignore any position taken by Israel as to what constitutes reasonable action?

Can I suggest the situation is very obviously different to that painted by your original post. A more accurate description of the situation is what our Department of Foreign Affairs at the time

Ireland has long been committed to assisting in the resolution of the problems of the Middle East and this action is concrete and practical evidence of our desire to see peaceful solutions to these difficult problems.

Originally Posted by L'Chaim

It seems there was an assassination attempt on a Palestinian militant living in Dublin.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 91,00.html

A Palestinian from Gaza and a Moroccan were arrested by Gardai and yet Palestinian sources in Ireland are trying to say Mossad were involved in this assassination attempt. Now if Mossad wanted this militant dead, he'd be dead, but how on earth did this Palestinian militant get clearance to live in Ireland? What were the Irish authorities thinking of when they gave permission for someone like this Palestinian to live here

If anything this case undermines the assertion that the Zionist State has friends in Ireland, in reality the majority of Irish people are sympathetic of the Palestinian cause. What should be under investigation is your traitorous statement and all those with you who pose a very real and present danger to Ireland. By the way as for the alleged assassin being Moroccan - there are also Zionists in Morocco, at any rate your filth have shown they have no respect for international borders. You should be closed down forthwith.

There appears to be confirmation oif this story from, of all places, Ramattan News Agency

Gaza, August 7, 2008, (RAMATTAN)- Palestinian sources said that two men tried to assassinate Jihad Jaara, one of the Palestinians exiled by Israel to Ireland following its siege on the Church of the Nativity in 2002.
According to the sources, two men opened fire at Jaara while he was making his way to the Palestinian embassy in Dublin on Wednesday.
Ramattan tried to phone Jaara but he could not talk as he was at the Police station in Dublin.
His comrades, exiled to Gaza, told Ramattan that Jaara survived shooting. But a vehicle crashed into his car in an attempt to dropp it into a nearby valley.
They added that Jaara was lightly injured and the Irish police arrested two suspects.

The story is gaining traction, particularly in the arab media, which of course places the blame on Shabak, on the basis of absolutely no evidence whatsoever. That Jihad Jarra is a prominent Fatah militant and there is a bitter power struggle underway between Hamas and Fatah is, of course of no relevance.

Originally Posted by Schuhart

Originally Posted by L'Chaim

Well Israel were probably just glad to get rid of him. Would he get into the US with his history? I doubt it very much. How many of those Palestinian militants did the Vatican take in? Don't even bother to check, I bet it was none. Seems like Ireland got the ************************ty end of that stick

I think you know that you are not addressing the reality of the situation and that your original cry of ‘how could Ireland let this guy in’ has been comprehensively answered. He was taken in as part of a very public process six years ago, so his presence in the country is hardly a surprise.

I understand how he came to be here and the negotiations that resulted in him ending up here. What is a surprise, for me is that he was allowed here in the first place. I think the Irish authorities were mad to allow someone like him come here and to give him police protection and a safe house. And what is also a surprise to me is that the Irish authorities expected him to just blend in or to expect that his stay would be a short one. He's not going back to the West bank because the Israelis won't let him in, so Ireland is now stuck with an Islamic terroist. He's here 6 years and whatever activity he's involved in, here in Dublin, has led to an attempt on his life by another Palestinian and a Moroccan. So his presence in Ireland is a surprise. We deport children and we take in people like him? That is a surprise.

Pity they missed the bastard . he is a terrorist for god's sake . Not like mossad to screw up.Must be an inhouse palestinian terrorist feud. Why didn't they hire someone from Limerick to do him.

Originally Posted by Antoirish

Pity they missed the bastard . he is a terrorist for god's sake . Not like mossad to screw up.Must be an inhouse palestinian terrorist feud. Why didn't they hire someone from Limerick to do him.

Ever heard of 'innocent UNTIL proven guilty'?? Are are you another Morris Phillips who believes that all Palestinians - men, women and children - are terrorists and should be killed?

First of all it seems this man was a member of Fatah, which is Mahmoud Abbas' grouping, which is not attacking Israel. In that context if this report is true then it seems Israel may be trying to stir things up again.

Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach

First of all it seems this man was a member of Fatah, which is Mahmoud Abbas' grouping, which is not attacking Israel. In that context if this report is true then it seems Israel may be trying to stir things up again.

It is interesting that they've chosen Irish soil to start this 'stirring up' given the fact that there was a leak some weeks back about a Mossad plan to carry out a terror attack on Irish soil and blame Muslims (they're old hands at that now). ................

Originally Posted by Mujaahid

Originally Posted by Antoirish

Pity they missed the bastard . he is a terrorist for god's sake . Not like mossad to screw up.Must be an inhouse palestinian terrorist feud. Why didn't they hire someone from Limerick to do him.

Ever heard of 'innocent UNTIL proven guilty'?? Are are you another Morris Phillips who believes that all Palestinians - men, women and children - are terrorists and should be killed?

"Innocent until proven guilty"? What on earth are you talking about? This guy is an Islamic terrorist. He's living in Ireland. It seems the Irish authorities felt it was acceptable to allow him to come here, give him police protection and a safe house. Six years down the line there's an attempt on his life and a fellow Palestinian and a Moroccan are arrested in connection with the attempted killing. Yes i would say it's looking like an "in-house Palestinian terrorist feud". Innocent until proven guilty is not a principle of terrorism. And if it is some sort of 'Arab feud', then it has no place here in Dublin. If this Palestinian is bringing trouble to Dublin, or is involved in a feud that has no basis in Dublin/Ireland, then he should be deported.

Originally Posted by L'Chaim

Originally Posted by Mujaahid

Originally Posted by Antoirish

Pity they missed the bastard . he is a terrorist for god's sake . Not like mossad to screw up.Must be an inhouse palestinian terrorist feud. Why didn't they hire someone from Limerick to do him.

Ever heard of 'innocent UNTIL proven guilty'?? Are are you another Morris Phillips who believes that all Palestinians - men, women and children - are terrorists and should be killed?

"Innocent until proven guilty"? What on earth are you talking about? This guy is an Islamic terrorist. He's living in Ireland. It seems the Irish authorities felt it was acceptable to allow him to come here, give him police protection and a safe house. Six years down the line there's an attempt on his life and a fellow Palestinian and a Moroccan are arrested in connection with the attempted killing. Yes i would say it's looking like an "in-house Palestinian terrorist feud". Innocent until proven guilty is not a principle of terrorism. And if it is some sort of 'Arab feud', then it has no place here in Dublin. If this Palestinian is bringing trouble to Dublin, or is involved in a feud that has no basis in Dublin/Ireland, then he should be deported.

Isn't Israel supposed to be in a ceasefire with Fatah? In that context it should lay off. Israel describes all Palestinian militants as "Islamic" militants/terrorists, but Fatah is more a nationalist movement than an Islamist one, unlike Hamas.