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    Re: Bertie Ahern, accountant.

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    I think perhaps its time to have a look at how Bertie got into politics??

    How did he get the nomination for his TD.???????????

    As I understand it he is totally indebted to his wife for this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Perhaps someone out there knows the full story.
    Read Stephen Collins biography - which incidently notes that he left a £20,000 job with the Mater for a £8,500 in Dail Eireann in 1977.
    Figures seem very strange to me.
    How many jobs in the Mater would have paid nearly 2.5 times a TD's salary in 1977?

    He must have needed dig-outs from Day 1.
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    Re: Bertie Ahern, accountant.

    Quote Originally Posted by droghedasouth
    Quote Originally Posted by returning officer
    Quote Originally Posted by descartes
    I think perhaps its time to have a look at how Bertie got into politics??

    How did he get the nomination for his TD.???????????

    As I understand it he is totally indebted to his wife for this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Perhaps someone out there knows the full story.
    Read Stephen Collins biography - which incidently notes that he left a £20,000 job with the Mater for a £8,500 in Dail Eireann in 1977.
    Figures seem very strange to me.
    How many jobs in the Mater would have paid nearly 2.5 times a TD's salary in 1977?

    He must have needed dig-outs from Day 1.
    No way an unqualified accountant/clerk would have been getting 20k punts in 1977. I doubt surgeons and top managers in Mater were getting that. Average wage then was about what 4/5k punts?

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    Re: Bertie Ahern, accountant.

    Bertie's salary would have been 4/5k at the most, he was counting cars FFS, the TD salary could have been 8k though, although as we know now it was never going to be enough.

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    Re: Bertie Ahern, accountant.

    Quote Originally Posted by returning officer
    Read Stephen Collins biography - which incidently notes that he left a £20,000 job with the Mater for a £8,500 in Dail Eireann in 1977.
    Yer hole. A young fella, early 20s, without a single qualification to his name, working as a lowly clerk, was getting £20K a year in 1977?

    Or to put it in context, you claim Ahern was getting roughly twice the price of an ordinary house in salary for counting the cars in the Mater carpark.



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    Re: Bertie Ahern, accountant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whatuwant2007
    He also holds an honorary membership Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy, although he wasn't a Chartered Accoutant....he was a trained Cost and Works accountant... back then accountants were trained on the job, but not sure about the Mater...

    lots of people do this....

    In Ireland the technical term "Accountant" does not have a definition, unlike "Solicitor" or "Judge" or "Doctor"... so he entitled to use the term "Accountant" given his work in the Mater....

    i mean its not a big deal, surely his job is "Full time elected Public Servant"
    Last I looked, to be an Accountant required at least having a B.S. in Accounting from an accredited institution of higher education. Anything less meant you were a Bookeeper or a glorified Bookeeper (i.e. Fiscal Technician). To be Chartered (in Ireland) or Certified (in the States) required having a B.S. in Accounting plus passing a grueling set of written examinations over the course of two or three days after having finished post-grad work as an Auditor for at least one year. Surely it's a big deal if Bertie Ahern felt he had to lie (as he did) about his credentials. When I was a student at UCD in 2000 -2001, the students FF Cumman there distributed Bertie's CV (that he gave them to hand out). It (he) said he graduated from UCD with a B.S. in Accounting and from the London School of Economics with an M.B.A. and that he was the Financial Manager of the Mater Dei Hospital on the north-side. All lies! And provably so. When confronted with it by opposition TD's on television, Bertie Ahern mumbled that he'd "...have to check my records and get back to you on it." So the real question becomes why did the usual Irish media give him a pass on such a pathetic performance? Because he is the kind of bananna republican that the Anglo-American powers that be will permit us to have. He is and always has been nothing more than a gross manifestation of subjegation in much the same way that Diem, Theiu or Ky were in "South" Vietnam. Imperial step-and-fetch-it boys to retard genuine independence and sovereignty for the rest of us.

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    Re: Bertie Ahern, accountant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewinder
    Quote Originally Posted by returning officer
    Read Stephen Collins biography - which incidently notes that he left a £20,000 job with the Mater for a £8,500 in Dail Eireann in 1977.
    Yer hole. A young fella, early 20s, without a single qualification to his name, working as a lowly clerk, was getting £20K a year in 1977?
    It would be interesting to know the actual salary to put the position in context. £20k is just not possible.
    That's complete nonsense. I disagree with you.

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    Re: Bertie Ahern, accountant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whatuwant2007
    He also holds an honorary membership Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy, although he wasn't a Chartered Accoutant....he was a trained Cost and Works accountant... back then accountants were trained on the job, but not sure about the Mater...


    lots of people do this....




    In Ireland the technical term "Accountant" does not have a definition, unlike "Solicitor" or "Judge" or "Doctor"... so he entitled to use the term "Accountant" given his work in the Mater....

    i mean its not a big deal, surely his job is "Full time elected Public Servant"
    so that would make Roy Keane a Solicitor, having an honorary doctorate of laws?
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