Originally Posted by LTGuy

Originally Posted by Housewifey

I find it quite interesting that this conversation degenerated into a debate on fertiliser. Hmm. How apt.

Is it really surprising considering some people are sincerely stocking up awaiting An Gorta Mór again?

No Gorta Mhór. No stocking up. Just preparing for the future with caution instead of blind faith. D*ckhead

Originally Posted by Catalpa

That is the startling prediction from the CSO's latest report.

They estimate that the State's population will go from 4,232,900 [SIC] in 2006 up to 5,233,300 in 2016!

The pace of future population growth in the decades ahead will be dictated largely by migration trends according to Aiden Punch, director of the census at the CSO.

Excellent, more mirgration means more people working and paying taxes and contributing to the country.

We have over 400,000 non Irish who came to this country, found jobs and work, yet we still have 200,000 native Irish unable/unwilling to find work !

I agree with the suggestion that Irish women should be encouraged to have more children. Their patriotic duty indeed. I can hold my head up on this one. I have spent my entire life trying to persuade Irish women to mate with me. Now I can tell them its their duty.

Originally Posted by twtone

I had a good laugh at gnash (writing under this and other monikers --kev, sligoguy etc.,) whining about my objections to his racism. He continues with the stupid lie that I also post as someone called Dillon.

You are a class A loon. Your paranoia clearly informs your racism. You simply cannot accept that more than one person has called you out on your racist garbage so you have to construct a conspiracy thats its all the act of one person who is perpetrating a sock puppet campaign to discredit you because he has a chip on his shoulder.

Get help, this used to be funny. Its seriously worrying now though.

Originally Posted by LTGuy

Originally Posted by DaBrow

I could very possibly on the Autistic Spectrum!

How does this relate to the topic in general and the issue of alleged "overpopulation" in particular?

I don't believe in that ideology as you falsely imply "Purity of Blood"......

I reviewed your post I was answering to again. No, you did not proclaim that the Irish were übermenschen, yet you have repeatedly stressed the "blood" of planters while justifying their right to settle in Ireland. And this is something I find troubling. It seems you don't care about a common set of beliefs and values (which are clearly different between the republicans and planters); all you need - "pure blood" even if those people would slit your throat given a chance. You are not even racist as racist people prefer just skin color, you are worse - from eugenics camp.

[quote:lglo63ek]Don't twist the idea of Monoculturalism with that of National Socialism as they are completely different and the latter believes in eugenic superiority .......

Monoculturalism implies a common culture. There is no common culture between planters and respublicans. If there were, there wouldn't be any need for the Partition. Period.

I don't see why you need to mention the Handicapped in this discussion, Downs Syndrome is due to a faulty Chromosone and can develop in the offspring of very healthy people

Because the chances and odds of faulty chromosomes causing trouble rise stratospherically when inbreeding. Didn't they tell you that in your school of eugenics for "purely-breds"?
Majority of problems with mentally retarded in Germany is a sole legacy of Hitler's policies. You expressed indignation at the very idea of "non-pure-bloods" settling in Ireland, so it seems you are very fond of inbreeding, that is why I felt it was appropriate to mention the side-effects of your favourite approach to procreation.

The Irish Identity is a mixture of Norman, Viking and Celtic descent

Irish identity in vast majority of territories beyond the Pale is basically the same since the times of Neolite as proven by geneticists recently. Impact of invadors in the west of Ireland was negligible.

when a man would be from one side of the nation in point A and their spouse was far away in point B..

Besides the fact that any distance in Ireland is really ridiculous on any scale, your grasp of demographics is very contentious to say the least. How do you explain the fact that it is possible to say with a reasonable degree of certainty where an Irishman hails from by simply looking at his surname?

I see you have an axe to grind against the Scots!

I have neither an axe, nor grind anything. I just fail to see what makes the former colonial masters especially entitled to come and settle in Ireland. Simple as that. It looks like an eggregious example of lack of self-esteem in some circles.

English isn't their native language, Gaelic is

For a very small minority, just like in Ireland. You see I come from that part of Europe where the notion of "native language" means a little bit more than the ability to ask for directions towards the loo.

you'll find it in big fat bold writing on their Parliament!

One more sign of tokenism, just like "Is í an Ghaeilg príomh-theanga na hÉireann" (I quote from my memory, sorry if I get the formula not precisely right) in Bunreacht na hÉireann. You can make huge banners in bold-italic-caps all over "Dubh Linn" stating that - but it does not change the facts on the ground.

They had the english language rammed down their throats like we did!

Just like the Finns had Swedish, we had Polish, the Polish - Russian, the Czech - German, the Slovenians - German etc etc etc. And countless other nations around the world. Yet, it is only you who have achieved state independence and failed to revive your supposedly native language. You personally, cad 'na thaobh ná fuil aon Ghaelainn agat féin?

Ask any scot in Glasgow or Edinburgh if they see themselves as British.....

Just like blokes down in England view themselves "English" and not "British". So what was your point? Actually, I read a research which stated that only non-English residents of UK viewed themselves as "British" if they are ashamed of their own provenance. The English very rarely perceive themselves as "British".[/quote:lglo63ek]

My Last comment about the Scots was they actually want to break away from the UK! That shows how mature you really are, and clearly you haven't been to the Building in Edinburgh!

I mentioned in the 1st comment that I could be on the Autistic Spectrum, you were suggesting that I would think Ireland would be a better place if all the Handicapped or people with special abilities/ disabilities were done away with! Pure and utter tripe!

Last of all I was suggesting that all Native Tribes to this country married into other clans based in provinces different to they're own. What on earth possessed that warped mind of yours to thing I would be in favour of inbreeding....... you mentioned it in a positive tone so I really do concern for your well being! Not!

I would advise this...... You like to insult people and offend them in anyway you can! A miserable little gombeen like you is better off going back to the rock where you came from and whilst you're at it look for other miserable characters like yourself to join you!

Maybe then again you're probably a person who's so bitter that they throw stones up directionally into the air because your glassses were once stolen from you by the crows!

You would fight with your own shadow and likely a tree.

Monoculturalism means : One Culture for the One Nation I'm taking about (Ireland)........ that is what we had and that I what I would want to preserve in this country long after we are all dead and gone.

More people into this country: if they are not of Irish Descent will destroy us as a unique entity...... we will have nothing left........ all that forms you will be gone.

I would welcome those of our Diaspora back here: They would make the effort, contribute and ensure to integrate with us successfully........

A cut off point has to be made somewhere!

Originally Posted by Sligoboy

Originally Posted by twtone

I had a good laugh at gnash (writing under this and other monikers --kev, sligoguy etc.,) whining about my objections to his racism. He continues with the stupid lie that I also post as someone called Dillon.

You are a class A loon. Your paranoia clearly informs your racism. .

It's you who are the slimy racist. Do you deny that you believe that that there was something deficient about the Irish, to the point where the Irish gene pool needed to be "improved" by an admixture of Poles, Letts, Lithuanians etc.? We Irish were inadequate, we needed genes of people who were (in your mad view) smarter, stronger, more honest, more hard-working etc.

That's filthy racism. It's the kind of garbage ideology that the Germans used in their demand for lebensraum. My grandfather who was a member of the Republican Congress in the 1930s said that there should be no free speech for fascists. I agree with him. Crawl away into your hole.

Originally Posted by twtone

Originally Posted by Sligoboy

Originally Posted by twtone

I had a good laugh at gnash (writing under this and other monikers --kev, sligoguy etc.,) whining about my objections to his racism. He continues with the stupid lie that I also post as someone called Dillon.

You are a class A loon. Your paranoia clearly informs your racism. .

It's you who are the slimy racist. Do you deny that you believe that that there was something deficient about the Irish, to the point where the Irish gene pool needed to be "improved" by an admixture of Poles, Letts, Lithuanians etc.? We Irish were inadequate, we needed genes of people who were (in your mad view) smarter, stronger, more honest, more hard-working etc.

Now was it me that said that or one of my sock puppets

Didn't read the thread but do these projections take into account the fact that once the economy goes down the tubes no one will want to come here?

Originally Posted by DaBrow

I mentioned in the 1st comment that I could be on the Autistic Spectrum, you were suggesting that I would think Ireland would be a better place if all the Handicapped or people with special abilities/ disabilities were done away with! Pure and utter tripe!

Your post is as intellectually vacuous as always, so I will not go into it, but just one point. A fhir mhaith, READ MY LIPS! I NEVER said that handicapped people "should be done away with", eejit! Don't project your hidden fantasies on other people. All I said, and my claim is corroborated by extensive medical research, that inbreeding leads to genetic degeneration. Thus, the explicit policies of "keeping the purity of blood" (like Hitler did and like you wish to instil in Ireland) only lead to pain and misery for parents. Are you a victim of inbreeding yourself that you are unable to comprehend this simple truth?

And again, who on earth has told you that planters have "irish culture"??? Or in your little warped world of illogicity hating anything Irish constitues "Irish culture"?

Perhaps some of the pseudo multiculturalists here (the ones who speak no foreign languages and have never lived outside of Ireland) may care to explain the disgraceful series of murders of immigrants in South Africa in the past few days? I thought a multi-cultural society like South Africa was a model for Ireland to aspire to!