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    The bad publicity starting to hurt the Soldiers of Destiny?

    My letter in The Irish Independent Aug 30;
    'In 2001 Fianna Fail announced to great fanfare their plan to provide affordable housing for all poorer citizens(those on less than 30,000 euros a year ,that is)
    This propaganda was widely reported in the newspapers,and no doubt at least some of the gullible electorate believed it might come to fruition. Fianna Fail shamefully capitulated to the Builders lobby. The plan was all but abandoned and local councils were paid off (again?) to take "cash" in lieu of the affordable house quota which was previously obligatory for virtually all developments.
    The builders were not happy with the prospect of poorer citizens moving in where they do not belong and possibly lowering the tone and the value of their developments.
    Bertie did not mind at all, he has trousered the money they bribed him with,instead of increasing the derisory number of affordable houses,being built.
    PLAY IT AGAIN SAM!
    The Irish Times,for want of any hard news to fill its costly pages continues to play a willing role in disseminating the nonsense that issues from the busy governments ever active perpetual replay, propaganda machine-where busy fraudsters in the state,s employ daily release meaningless tripe posing as 'Something new out of Africa' Take for example the front page headlines,Aug 27 2005;
    'Government plan measures to deliver affordable housing'
    Bertie planned these measures in 2001 and nothing ever came of them.What will another happy sounding Quango called 'The affordable homes partnership' achieve? one can believe the bit about his 'fast tracking' hundreds of acres of new building land for cronies.They may not however want to build even private housing on it if an oversupply risks depressing the price of their current projects. The Taoiseach himself said that a small group of no more than a dozen powerful individuals ( such as the notorious Bailey Brothers) control 90% of the land bank availible for building -or indeed-rezoning , in the greater Dublin area.
    Irish newspapers should investigate the background to every unadulterated propaganda release from Fianna Fail and refuse to publish these announcements-at least without printing alongside them, the previous history relating to the heralded 'rolling out' of each 'new project' . It is a disservice to readers that every scruffy,old lying beggar that's dressed up in a new suit of clothes by Bertie, is sent to willing gillies in newspaper offices countrywide by the government spin department on a daily basis,and displayed unquestioningly on the front page, to dupe the electorate.The Soldiers are well aware if enough of the media even announce/publish the stream of nonsense which issues from their Quango creation department daily,at least some of it will stick.Like when you throw a large bucket of sh-er-sileage, against a farmhouse wall.! '
    http://www.soldiersofdestiny.org/afford ... sescam.htm

    (The Minister's reply) Sir -
    Recently a letter from John McDermott from the sunnier climes of Gran Canaria took issue with the government's recordon affordable housing. He alleges that the recent announcement about the establishment of the Affordable Homes Partnership relates to measures planned in 2001 and that "nothing ever came of them". Before dealing with the Partnership itself, let me first set the record straight on what has been achieved.
    By the reference to 2001, I am assuming that Mr McDermott is referring to the legislation introduced under the Planning and Development Act 2000 in relation to the setting aside of up to 20% of land for social and affordable housing. Perhaps Mr McDermott is abroad since 2001 and not up to speed with progress but I would like to advise him that, up to the end of March 2005, over 1,100 social and affordable housing units were delivered under Part V.
    Over 2,000 more were in progress and nearly another 3,000 were in planning. While this may seem like "nothing" to Mr McDermott, I have no doubt that it means the world to the 1,000-plus families who have already benefited from this initiative and the many thousands more who will benefit in the coming months and years.
    Indeed, taking all the initiatives in this area together, over 9,600 affordable housing units have been delivered since 2001. Mr McDermott goes on to question what the Affordable Homes Partnership will achieve. I am happy to answer that. It can be summed up in three words - more, faster and quality. It is all about achieving the quicker delivery of more high-quality affordable homes. To help to achieve this, one of the tasks which the Partnership will undertake is to bring forward additional land for housing. Anybody who knows anything about housing will regard this as a simple recognition of the fact that the availability of land is key to the supply of housing and to making housing affordable. But Mr McDermott chooses to paint it as a scheme to benefit "cronies".
    This suggestion disgracefully impugns the good names of the public-spirited people who have agreed to serve as board members of the Partnership. It ignores the fact that we have set out very clearly that the process of drawing in additional land for housing will be governed by a number of key principles: there will have to be a clearly established housing need in the area and it will have to be suitable from the point of view of sustainable development and value for money. That must occur within the context of quality and a timescale for fast delivery.
    Noel Ahern TD,
    Minister for Housing
    and Urban Renewal,
    Custom House,
    Dublin 1

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    You mean it's only starting to hurt FF?
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    bad publicity

    Every little nail will help to seal the coffin.If Eddie gets rid of them he will be the uncrowned king of Ireland-our own Ralph Nader.

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    Re: bad publicity

    Quote Originally Posted by untouchable
    Every little nail will help to seal the coffin.If Eddie gets rid of them he will be the uncrowned king of Ireland-our own Ralph Nader.
    As if every country needs a Ralph Nader!!
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    I really feel that blank cheque Bertie and his band of muppets are in for a hiding in the next GE and this from a former FF voter . I have been forced to dislike FF and its forward facing people only problem is i dont see an alternative i can vote for and i feel independents will fair better next time out to the detriment of a cohesive government .FF lied to the people at the last GE and sold us a pup ! I reckon Michael Noonan would have had a good case to take to court based on pre election promises by FF . Thanks for the SSIA FF but you aint going to get my vote next time out .

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    Don't tell lies untouchable. That isn't the letter as it was published in the paper (although it wasn't hard to tell it was you that was writing it).
    Failed liberal traitors:
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    Re: bad publicity

    Quote Originally Posted by untouchable
    Every little nail will help to seal the coffin.If Eddie gets rid of them he will be the uncrowned king of Ireland-our own Ralph Nader.
    How little you understand the Irish voter untouchable. The voting classes - middle aged, middle class house owners for the most part - would crucify any party which built thousands of "affordable" or "social" houses anywhere near the estates where they live. The unemployed, under employed and single mothers who would inhabit these houses do not vote for the most part being lazy and demotivated and as a consequence do not vote.

    They are no threat to FF at all who will be rewarded by the middle class.

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    I have to agree with commentator above the people who should vote dont vote---I have come across this numerous times --they seem to think that they are regestering protest at the government by not voting----which really only helps Fianna Fraud back in-----this is stupid.


    WILL the marginalised people of Ireland --those who have not benefitted by the corrupt policies of PD/ff in favour of big buisness


    PLEASE WAKE UP-----Vote Sinn Fein


    the attitude should be if the PD/FF s hate them so much there must be something good about them.
    The crown above the red hand is that of the O'Neill rulers of Ulster---not the Saxe-coborg gotha usurpers crown

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    They are no threat to FF at all who will be rewarded by the middle class.

    I dont believe in class distinction as you obviously do commentator but were i pidgeon holed as many people like to be these days i would probably fall into your catagory above but i can assure you myself and my peers will not be rewarding FF .
    Step back a generation or two and with the exception of few nobody had anything

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    Hi martin-TYRONE,

    WILL the marginalised people of Ireland --those who have not benefitted by the corrupt policies of PD/ff in favour of big buisness

    PLEASE WAKE UP-----Vote Sinn Fein

    the attitude should be if the PD/FF s hate them so much there must be something good about them.
    Ah sure, don't mind about the policies, WE'RE DIFFERENT! We're hard, we are - we're anti-everything so that makes us cool!

    What kind of rubbish is that? While I agree with your sentiment about a larger number of people in Ireland becoming marginalised, you think you'll achieve some kind of class consciousness by THAT?

    Give me a break, please! All you're short of saying there is

    "Vote first, ask questions later!"

    Regards,

    Opus.

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