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    Ratio Et Fides Ratio Et Fides is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Deputy View Post
    Yes, it’s quite intriguing, they should look at their inner-self and start being honest with themselves.
    There are various motives at work...some wholly innocent and some anything but. While it could be said that the OP supports mass immigration into the ROI for reasons of tribal revenge others do so because it has made prostitution come alive again in Dublin and Cork. Their blow job on Friday justifies in their minds a rapid change in demographics. The people I feel for are those like Catalapast who is utterly gentlemanly yet sneered at for legitimate concerns because they might get in the way of their sordid pleasures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratio Et Fides View Post
    There are various motives at work...some wholly innocent and some anything but. While it could be said that the OP supports mass immigration into the ROI for reasons of tribal revenge others do so because it has made prostitution come alive again in Dublin and Cork. Their blow job on Friday justifies in their minds a rapid change in demographics. The people I feel for are those like Catalapast who is utterly gentlemanly yet sneered at for legitimate concerns because they might get in the way of their sordid pleasures.
    Unfortunately, NI doesn't exist in a bubble, the outside world will intrude and make itself felt, if the RoI is destroyed by immigration NI will follow suit. The TW hoards do not recognise borders or a nation’s territorial integrity.

    Of course the OP is fully aware of this and fear for his tribe and Ulster heritage, (there’s a sense that it’s doomed anyway due to other factors) the only upshot (for him) in all of this is that the perceived enemy (Irish nationalism and probably the RoI) is also destroyed in the process. Mass immigration will do the job, what a sad, defeatist and destructive outlook.

    There lies the difference between us patriots who actually believe in something and those such as the OP who believe in nothing but are merely resigned to their fate.
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    Merkel's Germany will never give greece a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Walsh View Post
    How many people worldwide have lost their lives due to the activities of Antifa worldwide in the past 100 years?
    How many people worldwide have lost their lives due to the "activities" of far right and authoritarian regimes and their followers?

    You are off your head if you think small groups of anti fascist extremists armed with a few cans of mace and sticks are a bigger threat to world peace and security than despotic regimes
    Can't believe you wrote that, I know its not a competition, but lets pick 1920 as a start point, I would guess that both side are prolific in killing, but I would give the anti fascists the edge because the after a while the start killing their own with a vigour that has to be seen to be believed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomBreen View Post
    Can't believe you wrote that, I know its not a competition, but lets pick 1920 as a start point, I would guess that both side are prolific in killing, but I would give the anti fascists the edge because the after a while the start killing their own with a vigour that has to be seen to be believed.
    I was replying to a post that referred specifically to the dangers of the movement called "Antifa"
    If you want to somehow link the millions killed by the likes of Stalin and Mao (which is I assume what you refer to) to a 21st century relatively small student anarchist movement, you are off your head.

    Please note also that my answer refers separately to authoritarian regimes, and not solely to fascist ones

    To imagine a relatively small, largely student drawn anarchist movement, is a greater threat to World peace and stability in 2018 than Trump and other far right despots is idiotic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratio Et Fides View Post
    Thankfully outside of a handful of obviously disturbed individuals (frequently alcoholics) and teenagers who have the misfortune not to have sufficient parental discipline and a penchant for "shock value" aesthetics the vile and gruesomely nihilistic ideology of Neo-Nazism doesn't really exist on our Isles. However Ulster Loyalism and Zionism, both of which are founded on a murderous hate of the "Other" or at the very best a callous disregard, both of which carried out in line with this many, many, many more murders of innocent people on these Isles in the last century, are unlike Neo-Nazism forces here still to be reckoned with. Yet it seems that now it is not just the Zionists but also the Ulster Loyalists on here who are wanting more "Hate Speech" laws and tougher enforcement of the ones already here. Such lack of self-awareness is almost surreal and most certainly is stunning.
    I think that during the Repeal the 8th referendum a lot more than a handful of obviously disturbed individuals, i.e. insane right wing conservatives claiming to be Catholics were unleashed from their closets resulting in some of the vilest and ongoing hate campaigns this state has ever witnessed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    A chilling illustration of what racism and hard Right groupings involve:

    Beate Zschšpe given life in German neo-Nazi murder trial



    Don't rock the boat?



    I've known quite a Few Turkish people living in London and Scotland. Decent and hardworking. The frightening thing is that we have posters on this site who show real hatred to immigrants - hopefully the PSNI and GS wouldn't be as reluctant to acknowledge and address racism as the moderating team seem to be.
    911 did not happen
    Armenian Genocide did not happen
    London/Paris Muslim fanatics murdering people did not happen

    They are some fooking pair of blinkers you have on,,

    Good luck with the fascist / fake news career,, nothing to see here, ignore everything else,,

    muppet,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by venusian View Post
    I think that during the Repeal the 8th referendum a lot more than a handful of obviously disturbed individuals, i.e. insane right wing conservatives claiming to be Catholics were unleashed from their closets resulting in some of the vilest and ongoing hate campaigns this state has ever witnessed.
    As someone who grew up in NI during the Troubles, their evil rhetoric went way beyond Paisleys. Fortunately they were a minority and one which has no access to firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Walsh View Post
    How many people worldwide have lost their lives due to the activities of Antifa in the past 100 years?
    How many people worldwide have lost their lives due to the "activities" of far right and authoritarian regimes and their followers?

    You are off your head if you think small groups of anti fascist extremists armed with a few cans of mace and sticks are a bigger threat to world peace and security than despotic regimes
    In fairness Mao's China and Stalin's Russia not to mention Pol Pots lunacy top the stakes in terms of body counts not that its a competition mind but its been leftist authoritarian regimes that have been by far the most murderous in history funny how you neglect to mention that and those tyrants had the actual power to put into practice their warped ideologies yes others like Hitler did as well but even he had far more in common with the previous mentioned than the likes of Trump, Le Pen, Orban or whoever else is the great bogeyman these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade View Post
    In fairness Mao's China and Stalin's Russia not to mention Pol Pots lunacy top the stakes in terms of body counts not that its a competition mind but its been leftist authoritarian regimes that have been by far the most murderous in history funny how you neglect to mention that and those tyrants had the actual power to put into practice their warped ideologies yes others like Hitler did as well but even he had far more in common with the previous mentioned than the likes of Trump, Le Pen, Orban or whoever else is the great bogeyman these days.
    Can I make myself any clearer.
    Cultish addiction to emerging psychopathic despots, peddling fear and hate and division, is what gets people killed in their 10s of millions, irrespective of whether they are right or left leaning.

    Trump doesn't have an ideology, it is just that far right has worked for him so far.
    He just wants control and power and monumental wealth, if he thought socialism and atheism could get that for him better, he'd happily adopt both
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