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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post

    Leo stunned by reaction....


    Cabinet in disarray over Abortion Referendum - as Leo goes on a visible wobble about it all...

    Looks like a stunned Leo Varadkar has emerged from today's two hour Marathon Cabinet meeting with a less than united Front Bench behind him to carry a Referendum forward

    He is having 2nd thoughts now about going with AOD up to 12 weeks...

    If he cant carry his Cabinet with him

    - what chance the electorate?

    The Taoiseach has said there is concern among many politicians that the proposal to allow abortions in Ireland without restrictions up to 12 weeks may go one step too far for the majority of the public.
    Mr Varadkar said this recommendation went further than he and many people would have anticipated a year or two ago.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018...ment-abortion/

    Hopefully this vile proposal will never see the light of day...
    Having different opinions doesn't mean they're in disarray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerhard dengler View Post
    The same party tried to silence Peter Matthews (rest in peace) and Lucinda Creighton, Billy Timmons, on the same issue.
    No they didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    Having different opinions doesn't mean they're in disarray.
    I think Leo would go with the recommendations of the Ctte., but not having the support of the grassroots is limiting his options on the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ireniall View Post
    What we need and where the previous government failed so badly in its efforts , is to ensure that there is some early period which is unrestricted, that FFA is covered adequately and in such a manner that no pregnancy is forced to be completed in this situation, that Savita Halappanavar never happens again and that seriously life limiting conditions have sufficient time to be discovered and terminated.
    That may be your view of what we need. It's not mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    I think Leo would go with the recommendations of the Ctte., but not having the support of the grassroots is limiting his options on the issue.
    I think Leo will say as little as possible on this subject. I also don't think he'd go with the Committee's recommendations.
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    Going to be gorgeous watching some of the rural pols trying to sit on the fence, speak out of both sides of the mouth and be very definite about how unsure they are.

    In other words the complete opposite of the impression they try to give when seeking election.

    Like some bandy rooster with two heads born under a bad moon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post

    Leo stunned by reaction....


    Cabinet in disarray over Abortion Referendum - as Leo goes on a visible wobble about it all...

    Looks like a stunned Leo Varadkar has emerged from today's two hour Marathon Cabinet meeting with a less than united Front Bench behind him to carry a Referendum forward

    He is having 2nd thoughts now about going with AOD up to 12 weeks...

    If he cant carry his Cabinet with him

    - what chance the electorate?

    The Taoiseach has said there is concern among many politicians that the proposal to allow abortions in Ireland without restrictions up to 12 weeks may go one step too far for the majority of the public.
    Mr Varadkar said this recommendation went further than he and many people would have anticipated a year or two ago.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018...ment-abortion/

    Hopefully this vile proposal will never see the light of day...
    He clearly hasn't been following the polls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    I think Leo would go with the recommendations of the Ctte., but not having the support of the grassroots is limiting his options on the issue.
    Members of the Cabinet are the Party grassroots now? We must have different dictionaries!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calculusmadeeasy View Post
    It was on the wireless earlier.

    Could be the catalyst that topples this government?
    Throw in the FF factor and it's all to play for.
    FF don't want to lose their pro-life vote, which will happen if they don't put clear water between the party and any push for abortion. The complicit silence of FF tds is already damaging that vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    Somewhat off topic, but why do governments have to have an opinion on a referendum?

    Surely it's almost better for politicians to STFU approaching a referendum and let - you know - the people decide.

    There's no winning or losing a referendum, just the decision of the majority.
    I agree also dont know what STFU means
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