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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    They completed bombed, defending Frances ISIS Fitzgerald, and yet still survived.
    Another poster made a good point about that: it was just showmanship.

    Pretty impressive if it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    I think the morning after pill needs to be made more widely available, along with the introduction of the rumoured male-pill. That would drastically reduce abortions. On the other hand I do support repeal, followed by legislation not quite as liberal as that recommended by the Oireachtas committee. Also, I consider the Committee to have been a stitch up, with members largely handpicked to reach a pre determined conclusion. I would be surprised if Leo did not know what their recommendations were likely to be. It doesnt seem though that FG is entirely ready to be railroaded by their leader on this.

    I think the govt would be better advised to abide by the recommendations of the Constitutional Convention, rather than the Oireachtas Committee, given the successful precedent of the Marriage Equality Referendum.
    The Country is awash with contraceptives!

    In fact when we had all these debates in the 70s the people pressing for its availability were adamant that making them available would pretty well wipe out unwanted pregnancies!

    Now being discussed on RTE radio now BTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    Em no.
    Why not?
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    Now saying that there is concern among many politicians that the proposal to allow abortions in Ireland without restrictions up to 12 weeks may go one step too far for the majority of the public.

    The proposal went further than he anticipated even a couple of years ago

    I read that he does not then support it!

    But he wont say what it is he supports!

    Talk about confusion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    Somewhat off topic, but why do governments have to have an opinion on a referendum?

    Surely it's almost better for politicians to STFU approaching a referendum and let - you know - the people decide.

    There's no winning or losing a referendum, just the decision of the majority.
    A government would only bring a referendum they want to see passed.
    If they didn't want it passed or were indifferent about it, why bother holding it in the first place?
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    Will publish Heads of Bill before Referendum he says

    There will be a 3 day debate in the Dáil and Seanad as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    Now saying that there is concern among many politicians that the proposal to allow abortions in Ireland without restrictions up to 12 weeks may go one step too far for the majority of the public.

    The proposal went further than he anticipated even a couple of years ago

    I read that he does not then support it!

    But he wont say what it is he supports!

    Talk about confusion!
    Sounds like he's worried about his, and his party's future in government.
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    Leo seems to be seriously rattled--the "am" levels reaching 20 apm in that one-minute interview.

    Enda Kenny lost a referendum but he had support and popularity within the grassroots. Leo wants to win a GE as Taoiseach approved by the electorate. Won't happen if they lose this referendum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellen Ripley View Post
    Leo seems to be seriously rattled--the "am" levels reaching 20 apm in that one-minute interview.

    Enda Kenny lost a referendum but he had support and popularity within the grassroots. Leo wants to win a GE as Taoiseach approved by the electorate. Won't happen if they lose this referendum.
    He is seriously rattled - yes his apm's went critical that's for sure!:



    Is there a Doctor in the House?
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    Leo never seemed to have a strong opinion either way (from his previous utterances it seemed likely he'd try to gauge what might pass and give him a political victory). Simon Harris seems enthusiastic and gung-ho for full repeal. On the other hand, Coveney would probably be far more conservative (maybe some fairly limited exceptions would be his cup of tea). I'd guess there's a wide range of opinion in the cabinet.
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