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    Socratus O' Pericles Socratus O' Pericles is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    51 years is just yesterday when it comes to Church teaching which stretches back to JC himself ?
    I thought it was immutable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratus O' Pericles View Post
    To be honest I don't think about her all that much, she was of her time*. I'm addressing my point to the anti abortion movement, you cannot legislate to prevent abortion , its impossible. The ability to bully and intimidate women is severely constrained viz a viz say the 1930s(1990s in Ireland). To my mind the only way to diminish or stop abortions is to make every child a wanted child- prohibition never works.

    *Eugenics that is not totally voluntary is to be viewed with caution.

    I'm actually an alumnus of Keele but was a little surprised at the forthrightness of their report

    https://www.keele.ac.uk/media/keeleu...0Low%20Res.pdf
    We're not proposing to legislate in order to prevent abortion; we're proposing to legislate to facilitate abortion. We're proposing to roll up our sleeves and get blood on our hands.

    You're being somewhat evasive. How do you propose to "make every child a wanted child" other than referring to what other people write?

    Can we take it that you agree with something or other that's written in the link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratus O' Pericles View Post
    I thought it was immutable?
    Except when it no longer suits - like the prohibition on lending money at interest ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    We're not proposing to legislate in order to prevent abortion; we're proposing to legislate to facilitate abortion. We're proposing to roll up our sleeves and get blood on our hands
    Wheras you seem happy to outsource that 'blood'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh
    I have a TextBook for Catholic Nurses ..............
    Quote Originally Posted by gerhard dengler
    Today's episode of politics.ie comedy gold.

    Priceless
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    My copy is from the 50s.
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    Sure it is
    You should think about putting up a screenshot of your copy here
    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    A screenshot is a copy of something on my computer screen ..... it is not possible to take a screenshot of a hardback textbook
    It's very very easy to provide a screenshot to this website. Here is a screenshot of a book I textbook that I own.



    This is the book that I discussed earlier on another thread a couple of hours ago.
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    Half Nelson Half Nelson is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratus O' Pericles View Post
    But not as long ago as Sanger.
    Sanger is still lauded as an icon and hero of the abortion movement, so, presumably, her writings are similarly accepted.

    Show me a ProAbortion who rejects her writings on race, eugenics and population control.

    Planned Parenthood have their annual Sanger award - their highest honour.
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    gerhard dengler gerhard dengler is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerhard dengler
    His screen shot of his copy would determine this.

    If he has a copy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    a) "screenshot" is one word. No space, no hyphen.
    b) "screenshot" is not the correct word to use for a scan or photograph of a physical book.
    c) Cruimh's substantial point is made, making such a scan or photo unnecessary.

    You're very welcome, gerhard.
    We haven't even started yet to deal with his claim about what the textbook is purported to contain.

    And you are welcome
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    Half Nelson Half Nelson is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    51 years is just yesterday when it comes to Church teaching which stretches back to JC himself ?
    Is that a question? You don't seem very sure of what you're posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    We're not proposing to legislate in order to prevent abortion; we're proposing to legislate to facilitate abortion. We're proposing to roll up our sleeves and get blood on our hands.
    Blood that we're currently quite content to see on our neighbours' hands. That's not very neighbourly.
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    I feel it necessary to issue a DDM* Alert (grade 1).

    Thats Dengler Debating Method to the newer members.

    Prepare for:
    1. The thread being led up a cul de sac.
    2. A demand that has nothing to do with the subject under discussion, normally requiring proof of the obvious which will then be rejected.
    3. Repeat 2 for 12 pages.
    4. Claim victory when every sane poster logs off laughing.

    All this from a known purveyor of untruths (liar). Only last week, even his most dedicated acolytes scurried away from the claim that non marital children had no recourse to the courts if excluded from a parents will. Much DDM ensued.

    This had been a P.ie Public Service Announcement.
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