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    Socratus O' Pericles Socratus O' Pericles is online now
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    Secession

    Straightforward enough, it seems, if "overseas and a former colony then secession is OK, if land border only...........then what?:


    The term secession designates the unilateral withdrawal from a state of part of its territory and population with the will to create a new state.

    It is commonly admitted today that, outside the context of decolonization and situations of military occupation, there is no “right” to create an independent state. “External self-determination” was granted to colonized peoples only on the basis of the “salt-water” test-U.N. Resolution 637. But this does not mean that secession is prohibited. The real criterion for the emergence of a new state, outside the colonial context, is the principle of effectiveness: if a secessionist entity succeeds in fulfilling the conditions of statehood, a new state is born
    http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/...6953-0044.xmlt


    Secession is on the Agenda the world over:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govern...ic_of_Abkhazia

    https://Tens of Countries In Europe ...ents_in_Europe

    Obviously Catalonia is the current pressing isssue but Flanders, Kurdistan and Yemen are also controversial

    Not to mention issues in Ireland and Scotland. California and The South, Native Americans........

    And on, and on...........


    I heard of a study on radio recently (so sorry can't link) that up to 8,000 new "countries" could be established if every secessionist claim were conceded.



    I'm going out tonight to start the Free Ballybrack Movement- we want an independent republic separating us from the ragmen in the noggin, the klipes in Killiney and the clots in Cabinteely. Baile Breac Saor, Baile Breac Sona is my motto.



    Can any "autonomous group" that can deliver the votes have its own independent country?
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    Free the Lakeland Kingdom...
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    Or the free thinking theocracy of monkstown. Certainly the gaeltachts have no place in the modern Ireland and should be expelled into the sea. What about the ancient caliphate of Longford ? Or rebel cork ? The latter having the most opaque dialect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter-Gatherer View Post
    Or the free thinking theocracy of monkstown. Certainly the gaeltachts have no place in the modern Ireland and should be expelled into the sea. What about the ancient caliphate of Longford ? Or rebel cork ? The latter having the most opaque dialect.
    Certainly support the idea of a PROC, I'd wish them every success with their venture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socratus O' Pericles View Post
    ... Can any "autonomous group" that can deliver the votes have its own independent country?
    If the USA says so, Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    Free the Lakeland Kingdom...
    Please do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    Free the Lakeland Kingdom...
    Pull the Plug ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by blinding View Post
    Pull the Plug ....
    Moi is sure ye do, regularly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    Free the Lakeland Kingdom...
    I knew this would start once your man was freed............
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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    Free the Lakeland Kingdom...
    Where do we sign, Bridges?
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