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    The Eagle of the Ninth The Eagle of the Ninth is offline

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    While the case of Mr. Warmbier is tragic, his story should serve as a warning to other Americans to never visit North Korea. Going into North Korea is like walking into a forest of black bears and tigers without any means of self protection.

    Just do not go into North Korea, there is nothing to see, and nothing you can do to contribute to help the locals.
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    Apparently all the scans to date, since his return to the US, have shown no evidence of any fractures, thought that to be strange ?
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    I see a missile with Fat Boy's name on it being readied for launch in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scitlipo View Post
    I see a missile with Fat Boy's name on it being readied for launch in the near future.

    Americans won't take direct military action.
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    RIP.

    I don't know why anyone would go to North Korea for any reason. However, Dennis Rodman seems to think it's a great place altogether.

    There are currently three other Americans held there, God knows what condition they are in.

    Three Americans Still Held by North Korea Following Otto Warmbier's Release - NBC News
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    Travel to NK is certifiable crazy.
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    Pol Pot and Kim Jong-un

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceGoalie View Post
    Indeed. I will never visit the USA again. They have kept people locked up in Occupied Cuba for well in excess of 12 years. Pure animals. And that is before we get onto their off the wall HIV rates, lousy food and untold legions of Billy Bunters. LardLand USA. You could spend an etrnity fat shaming there and not get past the first 100000000 under bellies


    USA has been in a political coma since Tom Jefferson was riding his slaves. Plus, as he is American, he probably wasn't too bright to begin with.

    Shudda felt at home, given the amount of African Americans Uncle Sam locks up and does experiments on: infecting them with syphilis and worse

    A bit of adventure for the trouble maker didn't tuen out as he expected.

    Still Trump can use it to make trouble. The USA has armed forces in South Korea and japan which do not belong there. Let's hope they can stop raping Japanese and Koreans school kids, at least until the funeral is over.
    North Korea is an insane regime quite like "Democratic Kampuchea" (Cambodia) under the Khmer Rouge. There was the famous case of a British academic Malcolm Caldwell who was a great admirer of Pol Pot but was murdered just the same, a few hours after he met the Great Man.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Caldwell

    James Alexander Malcolm Caldwell (27 September 1931 – 23 December 1978) was a British academic and a prolific Marxist writer. He was a consistent critic of American foreign policy, a campaigner for Asian communist and socialist movements, and a supporter of the Khmer Rouge. Malcolm Caldwell was murdered, under mysterious circumstances, a few hours after meeting Pol Pot in Cambodia. ...........

    He was a founding editor of the Journal of Contemporary Asia, a journal concerned with revolutionary movements in Asia. In 1978 Caldwell was one of the Labour Party candidates in St Mary's ward in local elections in Sidcup, Bexley. ....
    Caldwell was one of the staunchest defenders of the Pol Pot regime. He frequently attempted to downplay reports of mass executions by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and was widely criticized by many authorities for doing so. .......

    In December 1978 Caldwell was a member—along with Elizabeth Becker and Richard Dudman—of the last group of Western journalists and writers invited to visit Cambodia since the Khmer Rouge had taken power in April 1975. The three visitors were given a highly structured tour of the country. "We traveled in a bubble," wrote Becker. "No one was allowed to speak to me freely.".................. According to Becker: "Malcolm Caldwell's death was caused by the madness of the regime he openly admired."


    So when visiting a country ruled by a Communist madman, you don't even have to try to steal a propaganda poster. You can be a long time supporter of the regime and they'll kill you anyway because you're a foreigner - or for no clear reason at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCKY View Post
    RIP.

    I don't know why anyone would go to North Korea for any reason. However, Dennis Rodman seems to think it's a great place altogether.

    There are currently three other Americans held there, God knows what condition they are in.

    Three Americans Still Held by North Korea Following Otto Warmbier's Release - NBC News
    I don't know why even a VIP would willingly visit there, their own VIPs have a living standard below the average here from what I've read on it. Morbid curiousity or bragging rights is about all I can think of. Personally I would have no desire to see people in what sounds hellish lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prester Jim View Post
    I don't know why even a VIP would willingly visit there, their own VIPs have a living standard below the average here from what I've read on it. Morbid curiousity or bragging rights is about all I can think of. Personally I would have no desire to see people in what sounds hellish lives.
    Or people wanting to see the place for themselves rather than just buy into the overly dramatic propaganda always been fed to us about that great nation? Many people from all of the world, including Ireland, go there and most go to learn or to show solidarity. Some go to spy however and when spies get caught like anywhere in what amounts to a war situation they get into serious trouble.

    The thing people like to forget about the DPRK is that the Korean war never formally ended and that they are very much in a state of siege.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eagle of the Ninth View Post
    While the case of Mr. Warmbier is tragic, his story should serve as a warning to other Americans to never visit North Korea. Going into North Korea is like walking into a forest of black bears and tigers without any means of self protection.

    Just do not go into North Korea, there is nothing to see, and nothing you can do to contribute to help the locals.
    I know someone who visited a few years ago and found it fascinating...

    And if I'd had the time and the funds I would have gone myself... but not now...

    It is baffling how North Korea continues to exist as it does in 2017...

    I doubt it would be a fun trip in the traditional sense of fun... but it would be interesting.

    North Koreans hate outsiders however... because they're brainwashed into thinking the world hates them and is against them...

    So apparently there's no friendly curiosity from them... just stares of contempt towards foreigners...
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