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    Might Ireland leave the Customs Union?

    There is talk of Ireland applying for some kind of special status to help ride out Brexit. Enda said Ireland "would more than likely have to ask the EU for some form of specific assistance after Brexit or face economic catastrophe", and yesterday, Tony Buckley, the head of Ireland's customs said:

    "overall Ireland has two big advantages in terms of dealing with the new situation. The Republic’s trade with Northern Ireland is only 2 per cent of all exports, and Ireland is an island at one end of the EU without another land border. If something comes into Ireland, it is in Ireland and that’s it"

    "If France were to have reason to believe that some of the Irish lamb it was being sold actually included New Zealand lamb, it could suspend Ireland’s rights and check all Irish consignments."

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    How would that work?

    One interpretation of this is Ireland would ask for some kind of 'half-in half-out' status within the Customs Union. Ireland wouldn't police the border with the North as the external border of the EU. Instead the customs border would be around the island of Ireland. Irish exports would face 'country of origin' checks when they shipped to the mainland EU.

    Would people accept that? It would damage our trade with the rest of the EU certainly. Also, we'd risk being flooded with dodgy unregulated imports smuggled across the border, and business would have to prove they weren't reexporting this to the EU. Thats a lot of paperwork.

    If this is the thinking within government, its worrying.
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    No
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    EK got out before any hard decisoons came his way.

    Hardly surprising for somebody who was merely a rubberstamp as a Taoiseach.

    Ditherer 2.0. A fully nEU empire compliant at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
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    Head of customs Tony Buckley seems to be suggesting we might.
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    To quote that Neocon imperial weapon Victoria Nuland - " Phuck the EU".

    Ireland's interests are at stake. No amount of Brussels Bullsh1t holds any vslue any more.

    We are about to get shafted again. And the garrison parties and corrupt media are bought&paid for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    To quote that Neocon imperial weapon Victoria Nuland - " Phuck the EU".

    Ireland's interests are at stake. No amount of Brussels Bullsh1t holds any vslue any more.

    We are about to get shafted again. And the garrison parties and corrupt media are bought&paid for.
    None of that answers the question. 98% of Ireland's trade is not with Northern Ireland, yet our government seems to only worry about the north.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gleeful View Post
    None of that answers the question. 98% of Ireland's trade is not with Northern Ireland, yet our government seems to only worry about the north.
    To be honest the official statistics includes a lot of variable transfer pricing based activity.

    Like what occurs in Las Vegas on the Liffey in the IFSC. It is immaterial to most people.

    Look at our imports. Restrictions on trade with the UK will affect the cost of living. People are already stretched by the oligopolies that exist here. Without the option of Newry or the Ferries it would be much worse.

    And this is ALREADY a rip-off republic. The people working in Ireland have a vital interest at stake.

    The quangocrats, media aristocrats and plutocrats on weekend radio are disconnected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    To be honest the official statistics includes a lot of variable transfer pricing based activity.

    Like what occurs in Las Vegas on the Liffey in the IFSC. It is immaterial to most people.

    Look at our imports. Restrictions on trade with the UK will affect the cost of living.

    And this is ALREADY a rip-off republic.
    Indeed, but whatever way you cut it, more jobs depend on selling to the mainland than to the north. Are we to cut off ourselves off from our largest market to save our smallest?
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    No.

    Norn Iron trade with mainland Britain is where the boundary would have to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    No.

    Norn Iron trade with mainland Britain is where the boundary would have to happen.
    That wouldn't work. The North can't stay in the customs union if its outside of EU law. Only unification with Dublin could keep the North in the Customs Union.
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