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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanieFitz View Post
    They can't win. Damned if they do and damned if they don't........although i expect that Christian Brothers will escape eternal damnation
    The reaction is fairly standard, they decide to sell land so the people who currently use the sports fields want them kept, no doubt local residents will object to whoever wants to develop them, all the while complaining of the cost of housing in the area, though not the notional value of their own property until they have to pay property tax and so it goes on and on and....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    2) Are these the only assets that could be sold or realised? Because this looks like a stunt to garner sympathy .....
    School Sports fields are been sold off left, right and centre in the UK all the time, often to the detriment of the children in the schools - what makes the sale of this sports field anymore controversial?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    To the State? And that would clear what they owed?
    No, because the state doesn't want the lands in question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritzbox View Post
    School Sports fields are been sold off left, right and centre in the UK all the time, often to the detriment of the children in the schools - what makes the sale of this sports field anymore controversial?
    Because its the christian brothers who are selling them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBP voter View Post
    Teachers at Deansgrange school feel

    So now religious orders have to sell off parts of school to fund the redress scheme.


    Great. Now the schools system will be damaged.

    Why is this let happen? Do the Christian Brothers not have other assets to sell off? I know they made a fortune selling off their HQ on the NCR in Dublin 7. A fine old building which shouldn't have been knocked down by the way. (A separate issue of course)
    This article is all over the place.

    So we have two organisations. The Christian Brothers and the Trust (Edmund Rice School Trust set up by the Christian Brothers). The Trust manages Education. (What does that mean? The Trust runs the school, the Trust owns the school, who are the Trustees?)

    Apparently the Brothers in the past promised/assured the parents/schoool that the land/playing fields would be forever safe. Where have we heard that before. And people believe them !!

    We have the school, owned by whom?

    From the article: It is understood the congregation informed the school’s board of management recently that it proposes to allow the school to hold onto 3.5 acres of land.

    Where is the article getting that? Is that different land, is that in writing?

    Then we have the 8 acres which is not owned by the Trust. Currently that is/some of it is used as playing fields by the school. (two thirds of the current playing fields)

    The Trust has a building on this land, which will be gone as part of this disposal.

    Then there is the Right of Way. Owned by?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritzbox View Post
    Obviously a logical conclusion - concluded. The Brothers need the cash to pay off the cost in the redress scheme which they agreed to. It's their property, they can do what they like with it.



    You're about 150 years too late.
    Never too late. A 10 year plan to get rid of them should be drawn up by government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watcher2 View Post
    They could transfer them.
    To a sewer/cesspit in Conra's Ridge. Dublin 9
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    The reaction is fairly standard, they decide to sell land so the people who currently use the sports fields want them kept, no doubt local residents will object to whoever wants to develop them, all the while complaining of the cost of housing in the area, though not the notional value of their own property until they have to pay property tax and so it goes on and on and....
    I expect that Enda might negotiate a deal with the Brothers so that D O'B will purchase it. Obviously it will be the best deal possible for the state
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricket View Post
    Never too late. A 10 year plan to get rid of them should be drawn up by government.
    They have been gone from the schools for years, the Trust was set up to manage the schools owned by the brothers, I'd say the remaining brothers are in nursing homes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    To the State? And that would clear what they owed?
    To the value of the properties at least. I don't know the value or the individual outstanding bills.
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