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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthInTheNews View Post
    The murder rate in the Republic of Ireland was consistently below 1.0 per 100,000 inhabitants between 1969 and 1995. The murder rate in the Republic has consistently been above 1.0 per 100,000 inhabitants since 1995. Most murders are committed in the Dublin Metropolitan Area so these figures are really indicative of the murder rate in Dublin. Most murders in Dublin are drug related.


    These figures indicate that Dublin was a safer place when the IRA policed drug dealers. Is this an indictment of the failed policies of Francis Fitzgerald? What can be done to provide a deterrent now that the penalties imposed by the IRA such as punishment beatings, kneecappings, exile and extra judicial executions are not available.




    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...999-056-p38-17
    The modern liberal democrat state has a serious difficulty managing certain classes of crimes like serious anti social behaviour it must be said, throwing .25 million per transgressor at the problem is not having an effect.

    Vigilantiism done correctly - against the worst scum only (especially ringleaders) - could be useful. If it were to happen i would shed no tears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthInTheNews View Post
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    These figures indicate that Dublin was a safer place when the IRA policed drug dealers. ...

    What you really mean is, when they beat up the dealers that weren't being protected by them.

    I saw a good tv prog a few years ago about how the troubles drawing gardi to the border in the 1970s meant they had less on the beat to monitor drug dealing in Dublin, so it expanded.

    I'd rather be policed by someone with a number on her/his shoulder than by a guy on my doorstep waiting to plug me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Quirell View Post
    ANy point I make is in relation to the OPer or those who would support them. No tantrums on display. If you're unwilling to defend it or your support for it, then fine. It is all on the record.
    Good to know. All comments by you are in reference to the opening post unless otherwise wise stated. If that is true then it is unfair to label your behavior completely child like and I apologise. If you are twisting things though that would be a bit silly.

    I would have a bit of sympathy in broad terms although would move the date forward about 10 years to when the provos stood down. I do think there absence created a vacuum. Am open to being proven wrong on it. Am on the phone at the moment will have a stab when I get to a laptop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McTell View Post
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    What you really mean is, when they beat up the dealers that weren't being protected by them.

    I saw a good tv prog a few years ago about how the troubles drawing gardi to the border in the 1970s meant they had less on the beat to monitor drug dealing in Dublin, so it expanded.

    I'd rather be policed by someone with a number on her/his shoulder than by a guy on my doorstep waiting to plug me.
    The IRA were quite friendly with FARC in Colombia in the early 2000's who did very well out of the drugs trade.

    I have a good laugh at people who claim the IRA rid Dublin of drug dealers before the ceasefires but don't like to talk about the dealers that weren't shot because they paid up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McTell View Post
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    What you really mean is, when they beat up the dealers that weren't being protected by them.

    I saw a good tv prog a few years ago about how the troubles drawing gardi to the border in the 1970s meant they had less on the beat to monitor drug dealing in Dublin, so it expanded.

    I'd rather be policed by someone with a number on her/his shoulder than by a guy on my doorstep waiting to plug me.
    They had enough police to go after the concerned parents in Dublin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceGoalie View Post
    The IRA were criminals, ordinary decent criminals according to some. As the Hutch/Kinahan feud shows, hardware has to be matched. The crimnal group known as PIRA were into all kinds of organised crime. Any antipathy they had/have to drugs would be like that of Don Corleone: tacitcs, not fundamental



    The IRA beat junkeys to death, The PIRA Mulryan brothers from near Hardwicke Stre,t were done in England for PIRA crimes, They were later caught up in the local drugs industry. As were relatives of Christy Burke. PIRA are simply criminal filth, no different from any other criminals, decent or otherwise.
    Call them what you wish. Over the years opinion seems to be varied on that. Is there absence noticeable or negligible on the drugs problem in the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devoutcapitalist View Post
    I have a good laugh at people who claim the IRA rid Dublin of drug dealers before the ceasefires but don't like to talk about the dealers that weren't shot because they paid up.
    And who were they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthandjustice View Post
    I don't socialise in Dublin town after 7 pm. I'll have a few pints in town but I'm heading to my local by 7 pm. Horrible atmosphere in town especially in the wee hours.
    In fairness most parts are ok but Templebar and the quays are scum ridden and to be avoided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ON THE ONE ROAD View Post
    They had enough police to go after the concerned parents in Dublin.
    Those vermin murdered a junkey - beat him to death. The gardai always go after armed thugs and criminals like PIRA
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    Quote Originally Posted by ON THE ONE ROAD View Post
    Good to know. All comments by you are in reference to the opening post unless otherwise wise stated. If that is true then it is unfair to label your behavior completely child like and I apologise. If you are twisting things though that would be a bit silly.

    I would have a bit of sympathy in broad terms although would move the date forward about 10 years to when the provos stood down. I do think there absence created a vacuum. Am open to being proven wrong on it. Am on the phone at the moment will have a stab when I get to a laptop.
    I'm replying in a thread which relates to a specific topic. Forgive me if I stay on topic and when I reply to posts which apparently support the OP.

    Is there an alternative way to reply which meets with your approval?
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