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    Re: SBP/RedC Poll - This Sunday

    Quote Originally Posted by factual

    Based on these figures (and I'm confident we will see a further increase in SF support between now and a Genreal Election) Sinn Féin will be well placed to at least double its representation in the next Dáil with Sinn Féin in government in a coalition with Labour but not involving an unpopular FF.
    So you're proposing a FG/Labour/SF coalition, factual?
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    Re: SBP/RedC Poll - This Sunday

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    Based on these figures (and I'm confident we will see a further increase in SF support between now and a Genreal Election) Sinn Féin will be well placed to at least double its representation in the next Dáil with Sinn Féin in government in a coalition with Labour but not involving an unpopular FF.
    So you're proposing a FG/Labour/SF coalition, factual?
    Well hiding behind a poster without being indirect, I would simply say that FF in its present form would in my opinion be an unattractive option so that other options have to be considered, options that have Labour and SF combining to press a left of centre agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe
    The prob with opinion polls is that its at local level the election is one or lost.

    Looking at the constituencies and the way the results happened its not clear where FG etc can pick up at the expense of FF.

    Ah, the old "seatless growth" theory, so beloved of FutureTaoiseach. Its very straightforward, odie - if FG poll 32% in an election, they will gain a lot of seats. If FF poll 36%, they will lose a lot. And you can bet your bottom dollar that strategists from both parties know where. But just off the top of my head, direct FG gains from FF/PDs would proably include Louth, Cavan-Monaghan, Kildare South, Dublin Mid-West, Dublin Central, Cork North-West, and Carlow/Kilkenny. Added to that, there'd be very possible gains in places like Longford-Westmeath, Dun Laoghaire and Cork North-Central.
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    Re: SBP/RedC Poll - This Sunday

    Quote Originally Posted by factual
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    Quote Originally Posted by factual

    Based on these figures (and I'm confident we will see a further increase in SF support between now and a Genreal Election) Sinn Féin will be well placed to at least double its representation in the next Dáil with Sinn Féin in government in a coalition with Labour but not involving an unpopular FF.
    So you're proposing a FG/Labour/SF coalition, factual?
    Well hiding behind a poster without being indirect, I would simply say that FF in its present form would in my opinion be an unattractive option so that other options have to be considered, options that have Labour and SF combining to press a left of centre agenda.
    Its gonna have to be with either FF or FG, Factual.
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    Re: SBP/RedC Poll - This Sunday

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    Quote Originally Posted by factual

    Based on these figures (and I'm confident we will see a further increase in SF support between now and a Genreal Election) Sinn Féin will be well placed to at least double its representation in the next Dáil with Sinn Féin in government in a coalition with Labour but not involving an unpopular FF.
    So you're proposing a FG/Labour/SF coalition, factual?
    Well hiding behind a poster without being indirect, I would simply say that FF in its present form would in my opinion be an unattractive option so that other options have to be considered, options that have Labour and SF combining to press a left of centre agenda.
    Its gonna have to be with either FF or FG, Factual.[/quote:rymx3pq4]

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    Re: SBP/RedC Poll - This Sunday

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    I seem to remember various SF people saying that you would double or triple your representation in the last election. Instead you lost one seat. I wouldn't take too much satisfaction from any poll factual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldur0300
    I seem to remember various SF people saying that you would double or triple your representation in the last election. Instead you lost one seat. I wouldn't take too much satisfaction from any poll factual.
    Sinn Féin did in fact increase both its share of the vote and its absolute number of votes and is the only party that has done so in each and every like for like election since the 1980s. Without putting too much emphasis on one poll, this poll suggests that the upwards trend continues for Sinn Féin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by factual
    Quote Originally Posted by baldur0300
    I seem to remember various SF people saying that you would double or triple your representation in the last election. Instead you lost one seat. I wouldn't take too much satisfaction from any poll factual.
    Sinn Féin did in fact increase both its share of the vote and its absolute number of votes and is the only party that has done so in each and every like for like election since the 1980s. Without putting too much emphasis on one poll, this poll suggests that the upwards trend continues for Sinn Féin.
    This poll suggests nothing of the like at all. Before the GE, SF were on these numbers and above but the predicted SF breakthrough failed utterly to materialise and the party lost a TD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldur0300
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldur0300
    I seem to remember various SF people saying that you would double or triple your representation in the last election. Instead you lost one seat. I wouldn't take too much satisfaction from any poll factual.
    Sinn Féin did in fact increase both its share of the vote and its absolute number of votes and is the only party that has done so in each and every like for like election since the 1980s. Without putting too much emphasis on one poll, this poll suggests that the upwards trend continues for Sinn Féin.
    This poll suggests nothing of the like at all. Before the GE, SF were on these numbers and above but the predicted SF breakthrough failed utterly to materialise and the party lost a TD.
    Taken along with the IT poll there is a definite increment in SF support this month compared to a few months before. That is all to the good. AndSinn Féin you fail to acknowledge actually increased its share of the vote in the last election, as many predicted. If this growth path continues, and these polls are surely an indicator for the good, then share of vote will translate ultimately into share of seats. Without speaking for Sinn Féin, I would argue that Sinn Féin is looking for steady sustainable growth not unsustainable increases; the steady and organic nature of Sinn Féin's growth suggests that a firm foundation has been built for future growth and this opinion poll is consistent with all of this.
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